Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[Itwiznaeme]

Its complete double standards, these individual events are thrown against the collective Rangers fans to try and strengthen arguments

A deluded junkie supporter of a football club that has cheated for over a decade who still supports the badge/crest (along with thousands of others just like him who condone cheating by supporting that club) is talking about "standards"?! ...

Just so you know why i am calling you and your colleagues deluded junkie supporters, i know you are not very clever and may think that i am insulting you when i am not. I am stating facts when i use those terms to describe you....

Definitions

Deluded:To deceive the mind or judgment of: fraudulent ads that delude consumers into sending in money. - http://www.thefreedi...ary.com/deluded

Junkie: someone who is so ardently devoted to something that it resembles an addiction - http://www.thefreedi...nary.com/junkie

Supporter: One that supports, as a structural member of a building, one who promotes or advocates; an adherent, a person who backs a sports team - http://www.thefreedi...y.com/supporter

Goodnight.

[Bairnforever1992]

Well its the financial and management of the team who used EBT's to the staff and players during the Murray years of that time, plus not paying their taxes can cause a huge concern thats why the taxman killed you're old club. With a debt over £134M in debt how can they pay that back to the creditors? By stripping the clubs titles and Stadium including Murray Park. Thats how its going to be no matter how many times you think i'm talking shite, thats the only way they can pay the debt back to the creditors.

[Guest Kincardine]

Junkie: someone who is so ardently devoted to something that it resembles an addiction - http://www.thefreedi...nary.com/junkie

Supporter: One that supports, as a structural member of a building, one who promotes or advocates; an adherent, a person who backs a sports team - http://www.thefreedi...y.com/supporter

Goodnight.

Most of us are Scots and most support football.

We know about 'junkies' and we know about 'supporters'.

They have nothing to do with your post.

[Guest Kincardine]

So you're a smart guy.

Explain how title-stripping works.

Mostly likely the same as other sports. The administrative authority that oversees the sports and awards the titles (custodians of the official records) in the first place .. revoke them and call you your a shower of cheating ®wankers

Obviously i maybe wrong ... how does it work ?

Is that what you call an answer? I asked how title-stripping is done. Can't you give me a thought-through response?

Remember, a league isn't the same as a sprint or a race.

Well its the financial and management of the team who used EBT's to the staff and players during the Murray years of that time, plus not paying their taxes can cause a huge concern thats why the taxman killed you're old club. With a debt over £134M in debt how can they pay that back to the creditors? By stripping the clubs titles and Stadium including Murray Park. Thats how its going to be no matter how many times you think i'm talking shite, thats the only way they can pay the debt back to the creditors.

That's all well and good and no-one would disagree with you. However, you were the one to mention title-stripping.

Is it asking too much for you to reply to my question?

[Bendarroch]

Thats how its going to be no matter how many times you think i'm talking shite,

Of course you're talking shite.

You haven't a fucking scoobie about any of this

[Bairnforever1992]

Well this Tuesday is when the Judge will look at the evidence of Rangers that used EBT's during 2001-2010 and if they were found guilty of using double contracts, they will be title stripped during 2001 - 2010, there are you happy now?

In fact sevcovians just don't want to hear the truth thats what i started to realize then, well roll on Tuesday and laugh at their demise.

Edited September 9, 2012 by Bairnforever1992

[Bendarroch]

That's all well and good and no-one would disagree with you.

Aye, I've heard all of the creditors clamouring for title removal in lieu of cash. Not just rasellik

Keep dangling that moron along - it's feckin hilarious stuff he comes away with.

[Bendarroch]

Well this Tuesday is when the Judge will look at the evidence of Rangers that used EBT's during 2001-2010 and if they were found guilty of using double contracts, they will be title stripped during 2001 - 2010, there are you happy now?

In fact sevcovians just don't want to hear the truth thats what i started to realize then, well roll on Tuesday and laugh at their demise.

There's are many sanctions available. None of them applicable if there is no guilt.

RFFF at the ready

[CityDave]

Has something changed because I was sure that the SPL were not interested in stripping titles away from Rangers but are more likely to persue a financial penalty if Rangers are found guilty.

Can see some kind of deal or compromise coming up, I find it difficult to understand why a football governing body in the country would want Rangers killed off or badly crippled, just wouldn't make sense or indeed financial sense for that matter. I can see a potential problem though if Charles Green starts behaving again in an irrational manner with ill advised comments and decides appeal outside the game again to more 'independant' bodies.

I know some of you guys will hate what I've just said but this is what I think might happen and its going to go down like a lead balloon among some supporters.

Edited September 9, 2012 by CityDave

[bennett]

Well this Tuesday is when the Judge will look at the evidence of Rangers that used EBT's during 2001-2010 and if they were found guilty of using double contracts, they will be title stripped during 2001 - 2010, there are you happy now?

In fact sevcovians just don't want to hear the truth thats what i started to realize then, well roll on Tuesday and laugh at their demise.

We have the utmost faith in Lord Nimmo Smith seeing that justice is done, a man of integrity and a shapr legal mind.

[Umbungo1874]

There's are many sanctions available. None of them applicable if there is no guilt.

RFFF at the ready

Did RFFF get their money back off Mr Custard?

[bennett]

http://www.scottishf...m/club/rangers/

Aye Norman knows his stuff sure enough.

Champions: Division I - 1890/91 (shared), 1898/99,1899/1900, 1900/01, 1901/02, 1910/11, 1911/12, 1912/13, 1917/18, 1919/20, 1920/21, 1922/23, 1923/24, 1924/25, 1926/27, 1927/28, 1928/29, 1929/30, 1930/31, 1932/33, 1933/34, 1934/35, 1936/37, 1938/39, 1946/47, 1948/49, 1949/50, 1952/53, 1955/56, 1956/57, 1958/59, 1960/61, 1962/63, 1963/64, 1974/75

Premier Division - 1975/76, 1977/78, 1986/87, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96,1996/97

SPL - 1998/99, 1999/2000, 2002/03, 2004/05, 2008/09, 2009/10, 2010/11

League Cup: 1946/47, 1948/49, 1960/61, 1961/62, 1963/64, 1964/65, 1970/71, 1975/76, 1977/78, 1978/79, 1981/82, 1983/84, 1984/85, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1990/91, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1996/97, 1998/99, 2001/02, 2002/03, 2004/05, 2007/08, 2009/10, 2010/11

Scottish Cup: 1894, 1897, 1898, 1903, 1928, 1930, 1932, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1953, 1960, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1973, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2008, 2009 European Cup Winners' Cup: 1971/72

Runners-up: 1960/61, 1966/67

UEFA Cup: Runners-up 2007/08 Drybrough Cup: 1979/80

[Guest Kincardine]

Well this Tuesday is when the Judge will look at the evidence of Rangers that used EBT's during 2001-2010 and if they were found guilty of using double contracts, they will be title stripped during 2001 - 2010, there are you happy now?

In fact sevcovians just don't want to hear the truth thats what i started to realize then, well roll on Tuesday and laugh at their demise.

Well I am not.

I can see how a title can be stripped from a person in a race/sprint.

How you you strip a title from a team in a league? How do you apportion the points to other teams?

How do you revise the results of the Scottish Cup?

What about the league cup?

How do you revise Rangers' European results?

How do you deal with Scotland games where Rangers played?

It is so easy for someone to say, "Strip them of their titles" and it's a cheap soundbite. But not one fucker will actually propose how this is done in any way that is logically consistent.

[Greenlantern]

Aye Norman knows his stuff sure enough.

Champions: Division I - 1890/91 (shared), 1898/99,1899/1900, 1900/01, 1901/02, 1910/11, 1911/12, 1912/13, 1917/18, 1919/20, 1920/21, 1922/23, 1923/24, 1924/25, 1926/27, 1927/28, 1928/29, 1929/30, 1930/31, 1932/33, 1933/34, 1934/35, 1936/37, 1938/39, 1946/47, 1948/49, 1949/50, 1952/53, 1955/56, 1956/57, 1958/59, 1960/61, 1962/63, 1963/64, 1974/75

Premier Division - 1975/76, 1977/78, 1986/87, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96,1996/97

SPL - 1998/99, 1999/2000, 2002/03, 2004/05, 2008/09, 2009/10, 2010/11

League Cup: 1946/47, 1948/49, 1960/61, 1961/62, 1963/64, 1964/65, 1970/71, 1975/76, 1977/78, 1978/79, 1981/82, 1983/84, 1984/85, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1990/91, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1996/97, 1998/99, 2001/02, 2002/03, 2004/05, 2007/08, 2009/10, 2010/11

Scottish Cup: 1894, 1897, 1898, 1903, 1928, 1930, 1932, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1953, 1960, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1973, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2008, 2009 European Cup Winners' Cup: 1971/72

Runners-up: 1960/61, 1966/67

UEFA Cup: Runners-up 2007/08 Drybrough Cup: 1979/80

Fixed.

[Umbungo1874]

Well I am not.

I can see how a title can be stripped from a person in a race/sprint.

How you you strip a title from a team in a league? How do you apportion the points to other teams?

How do you revise the results of the Scottish Cup?

What about the league cup?

How do you revise Rangers' European results?

How do you deal with Scotland games where Rangers played?

It is so easy for someone to say, "Strip them of their titles" and it's a cheap soundbite. But not one fucker will actually propose how this is done in any way that is logically consistent.

In Italy they seemed to manage it without to much of a problem.

Edited September 9, 2012 by Umbungo1874

[Guest Kincardine]

I see you have not yet got back to us to explain ..

Following on from my claim that the administrators of the game are the custodians of the records .. otherwise teams could make all sorts of outlandish claims :lol: .. eh !!

I had a quick peek at the SPL site ... here

I think that is the official roll of honour which the authorities are in charge of maintaining to ensure a proper historical record is kept.

So the title stripping probably involves a process where a) you are found guilty .. sure I heard something in the news about that

b) punishment is decided .. fine .. title stripping, both and even suspension or expulsion from the game .. now that would a hoot .

Anyway given the SFA/SPL lack of maral fibre and unwillingness to hand out the death sentence or anything meaningful given your disgraceful and sustained cheating over a number of years .. the most likely scenario is the cheating cnuts get a big fat fine and the history books rewritten to reflect their misdeeds..

The SPL simply rewrite the official roll of honour to reflect the same .. :lol:

Is that the correct answer ..I know it's a bit short on technical detailing .. but I think it contains all the relevant aspects to your question as to leave no doubt .. .. poor bearz

Some of your fraternity might have trouble relating to key words on this post such as honour ... please feel free to google it !!!

But then as we all know .. it doesn't affect Sevco/newco one iota ..

Shame coz you'll get stuck with the fine all the same .. price for trying to cling onto something that would never have belonged to you anyway ...

That's the weird bit ... .

This is just an enormous pile of pish.

Who wins the titles for those years? On what basis? How is that judged? Are they just voided?

[Guest Kincardine]

In Italy they seemed to manage it without to much of a problem.

well maybe you'd explain what they actually managed in Italy and what the background was. Perhaps you'd go far as to explain how that applies to Scotland.

Not that I think that you'd be wrong but just that you need to say more.

[Bairnforever1992]

well maybe you'd explain what they actually managed in Italy and what the background was. Perhaps you'd go far as to explain how that applies to Scotland.

Not that I think that you'd be wrong but just that you need to say more.

Have a read of 2006 Italian football scandal when teams in Italy got their title stripped cause of match fixing.

2006 Italian football scandal

Edited September 9, 2012 by Bairnforever1992

[Umbungo1874]

well maybe you'd explain what they actually managed in Italy and what the background was. Perhaps you'd go far as to explain how that applies to Scotland.

Not that I think that you'd be wrong but just that you need to say more.

In Italy they have stripped a team of league titles and if they have done it in Italy I would say that it is possible to do it in Scotland.

[Guest Kincardine]

In Italy they have stripped a team of league titles and if they have done it in Italy I would say that it is possible to do it in Scotland.

I am not arguing with that.

My question was really very simple: "Maybe you'd explain what they actually managed in Italy and what the background was. Perhaps you'd go far as to explain how that applies to Scotland."

Maybe you could actually try to reply to me.