The Hammer Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Bit of gossip doing the rounds that Sevco have lost the right to host any of the finals at their crumbling midden for a long time to come ... That gossips been going on for ages and it's been proved wrong every time. I've honestly lost count of the times in the past few years that this has been mentioned. Desperation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 That gossips been going on for ages and it's been proved wrong every time. I've honestly lost count of the times in the past few years that this has been mentioned. Desperation. Your ipo pamphlet had a part about ring fencing money for stadium repair etc.. Has that happened? No you installed wifi. Always rumours of asbestos in your roof yet nothing done. Given a choice of restricted view or dangerous stadium... Restricted view wins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Always rumours of asbestos in your roof yet nothing done. And the D&Ps wonder why so little of this utter pish is discussed. Are the asbestos regulatory bodies ignoring the situation? I'd bet good money that one of the sad b*****d community that reports Rangers to, say, the ASA or - HA HA - CAB, would have been onto them long ago about Ibrox. Result - complete shite posted on P&B. The sort of shite that sees wallopers on here creaming themselves when MacGoebbels reported 28 millions shares bing sold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 reach the top tier to dominate the opposition into a pulp. Hellish - I shouldn't laugh, but, ffs! Are you bhairnforever in disguise? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Was it not talked about on here the commonwealth organisers have told them to clean their shit hole of a stadium up or nothing will get played there. Rangers said you pay to clean our stadium, organisers said f**k off. Did they, aye? FFS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottxs Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I don't have a dabber. you'll never shout house if you can't mark off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think he's over in France meeting up with old friends. Neigh, surely not... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mybitchunderprotest Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Could this be the debt that tips them over the edge? Not too worried about the Hearts debt as I'm sure their fans will resolve it without waiting on a saviour to do so. From The Herald today. "The tenner debt: boys club stands up to poachers Published on 6 February 2014 Alan Campbell IN what may set a precedent, a boys club has made a complaint to Scottish Football Association compliance officer Vincent Lunny about the non-payment of compensation money allegedly owed by Hearts and Rangers. Musselburgh Windsor FC, who celebrated their 60th anniversary last year, say they have taken the stance to alert boys clubs throughout Scotland that they are due money from professional clubs. Their own complaint relates to an under-15 goalkeeper who joined Hearts, and two younger outfield players who were released to join Rangers. The club president, Scott Robertson, says his club is spending more money pursuing the complaint than it will actually get if Hearts and Rangers are forced to pay up. That is because boys clubs are due just £10 every time a senior club takes one of their registered players - a situation Robertson calls "disgraceful". As some 2700 boys, from the age of 10 upwards, are registered with senior clubs, boys clubs are frequently plundered for their best players. The compensation is set at just £10. Yet within the senior system, clubs can demand between £600 and £15,000 for a boy who wants to switch to another team. Explaining why Musselburgh Windsor have decided to take a stand over the £10 the club say is owed to them by Hearts, and £20 by Rangers, Robertson said: "To be due just £10 for a promising player we have probably nurtured for many years is bad enough. For that sum not to be paid, and for us to have to spend time and resources pursuing it, is really adding insult to injury. "Since the compensation rule -known as the training fund contribution - was introduced by the SFA in 2006 it has been almost completely ignored by the professional clubs. There must be hundreds and hundreds of cases of non-payments to boys clubs. "I came across the rule completely by accident - I don't think other boys clubs are even aware they are due money from professional clubs who have taken their players since 2006. "The onus is on the pro clubs to make the payments to the Scottish Youth Football Association who should then redistribute the money to the relevant boys clubs. I don't blame the SYFA or the SFA for this. It's the clubs who haven't been making the payments." Musselburgh Windsor, for whom former Scotland striker Kenny Miller once played, believe that not only should the senior clubs pay all the compensation they are due - which could run into thousands of pounds - but that the £10 should be replaced by something more realistic. "Boys clubs are facing escalating costs for facilities, kit and mandatory SFA coaching courses," Robertson pointed out. "Sponsorship is tailing off and some clubs are really struggling to make ends meet. Yet despite increasing difficulties, and the fact that almost every boy in Scotland starts his football career with one of our clubs, there is no money trickling back down from the top. "What you have to bear in mind is that once a boy is taken from us and joins a professional club he can be subject to what has been described as a 'children's transfer market'. The senior clubs receive sums of between £600 and £15,000 when boys as young as eleven move between clubs. "Meanwhile we get £10 - or not as has been the case. That figure is far too low. If it was even raised to £50 it might make the senior clubs think twice about signing so many of our players. At the moment they are like kids in a sweet shop. They pick and choose our best players and take as many as they want. "The reason our club has made a complaint to the SFA's compliance officer is because we want to make all boys clubs aware that they haven't been receiving the payments they are due - paltry though they are. "We believe all the money owed to the boys clubs should be paid retrospectively. A debt is a debt, whether it's owed for a week or seven years." Last night an SFA spokesman said: "We cannot comment until such time as a notice of complaint has been issued. However, the compliance officer does investigate all matters referred to him to determine whether there is a case to answer." " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Was it not talked about on here the commonwealth organisers have told them to clean their shit hole of a stadium up or nothing will get played there. Rangers said you pay to clean our stadium, organisers said f**k off. I would have thought that asbestos would not have been used in construction for a long time now, since its dangers have been well documented. Apparently it was only banned in the UK in 1999. That surprised me. So, theoretically, there could be asbestos in many 'modern' buildings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I would have thought that asbestos would not have been used in construction for a long time now, since its dangers have been well documented. Apparently it was only banned in the UK in 1999. That surprised me. So, theoretically, there could be asbestos in many 'modern' buildings. Far be it for me to stick up for The Rangers but asbestos is only a danger if its disturbed in a way that makes the fibres airboure thus potentially inhaled/injested by people in the local proximity. There are of course different types of asbestos.....white, blue & brown used in numerous construction products. So, if left alone its not a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Far be it for me to stick up for The Rangers but asbestos is only a danger if its disturbed in a way that makes the fibres airboure thus potentially inhaled/injested by people in the local proximity. There are of course different types of asbestos.....white, blue & brown used in numerous construction products. So, if left alone its not a problem. Correct 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomogganners Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Far be it for me to stick up for The Rangers but asbestos is only a danger if its disturbed in a way that makes the fibres airboure thus potentially inhaled/injested by people in the local proximity. There are of course different types of asbestos.....white, blue & brown used in numerous construction products. So, if left alone its not a problem. Probablt just spray it and encapsulate it, better for the enviroment and cheaper than removal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Probablt just spray it and encapsulate it, better for the enviroment and cheaper than removal. True, but if it's on the roof where access is limited I'd think they would leave it alone unless it had to be moved/broken out as part of other works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26045159 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairney Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Another dual screen monitor day in the office - 100,000 shares being dump...ahem...made available at the LSE - no bidders as yet, do we have any takers? Anybody? Anybody?.......... Edited February 6, 2014 by bairney 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottxs Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Another dual screen monitor day in the office - 100,000 shares being dump...ahem...made available at the LSE - no bidders as yet, do we have any takers? Anybody? Anybody?.......... I bid 1 bag of jelly babies for the shares. They must be worth at least that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Could this be the debt that tips them over the edge? Not too worried about the Hearts debt as I'm sure their fans will resolve it without waiting on a saviour to do so. From The Herald today. "The tenner debt: boys club stands up to poachers Published on 6 February 2014 Alan Campbell IN what may set a precedent, a boys club has made a complaint to Scottish Football Association compliance officer Vincent Lunny about the non-payment of compensation money allegedly owed by Hearts and Rangers. Musselburgh Windsor FC, who celebrated their 60th anniversary last year, say they have taken the stance to alert boys clubs throughout Scotland that they are due money from professional clubs. Their own complaint relates to an under-15 goalkeeper who joined Hearts, and two younger outfield players who were released to join Rangers. The club president, Scott Robertson, says his club is spending more money pursuing the complaint than it will actually get if Hearts and Rangers are forced to pay up. That is because boys clubs are due just £10 every time a senior club takes one of their registered players - a situation Robertson calls "disgraceful". As some 2700 boys, from the age of 10 upwards, are registered with senior clubs, boys clubs are frequently plundered for their best players. The compensation is set at just £10. Yet within the senior system, clubs can demand between £600 and £15,000 for a boy who wants to switch to another team. Explaining why Musselburgh Windsor have decided to take a stand over the £10 the club say is owed to them by Hearts, and £20 by Rangers, Robertson said: "To be due just £10 for a promising player we have probably nurtured for many years is bad enough. For that sum not to be paid, and for us to have to spend time and resources pursuing it, is really adding insult to injury. "Since the compensation rule -known as the training fund contribution - was introduced by the SFA in 2006 it has been almost completely ignored by the professional clubs. There must be hundreds and hundreds of cases of non-payments to boys clubs. "I came across the rule completely by accident - I don't think other boys clubs are even aware they are due money from professional clubs who have taken their players since 2006. "The onus is on the pro clubs to make the payments to the Scottish Youth Football Association who should then redistribute the money to the relevant boys clubs. I don't blame the SYFA or the SFA for this. It's the clubs who haven't been making the payments." Musselburgh Windsor, for whom former Scotland striker Kenny Miller once played, believe that not only should the senior clubs pay all the compensation they are due - which could run into thousands of pounds - but that the £10 should be replaced by something more realistic. "Boys clubs are facing escalating costs for facilities, kit and mandatory SFA coaching courses," Robertson pointed out. "Sponsorship is tailing off and some clubs are really struggling to make ends meet. Yet despite increasing difficulties, and the fact that almost every boy in Scotland starts his football career with one of our clubs, there is no money trickling back down from the top. "What you have to bear in mind is that once a boy is taken from us and joins a professional club he can be subject to what has been described as a 'children's transfer market'. The senior clubs receive sums of between £600 and £15,000 when boys as young as eleven move between clubs. "Meanwhile we get £10 - or not as has been the case. That figure is far too low. If it was even raised to £50 it might make the senior clubs think twice about signing so many of our players. At the moment they are like kids in a sweet shop. They pick and choose our best players and take as many as they want. "The reason our club has made a complaint to the SFA's compliance officer is because we want to make all boys clubs aware that they haven't been receiving the payments they are due - paltry though they are. "We believe all the money owed to the boys clubs should be paid retrospectively. A debt is a debt, whether it's owed for a week or seven years." Last night an SFA spokesman said: "We cannot comment until such time as a notice of complaint has been issued. However, the compliance officer does investigate all matters referred to him to determine whether there is a case to answer." " For every 10 pounds Hearts spend, rangers spend 20. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 For every 10 pounds Hearts don't spend, rangers don't spend 20. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Could this be the debt that tips them over the edge? Not too worried about the Hearts debt as I'm sure their fans will resolve it without waiting on a saviour to do so. From The Herald today. "The tenner debt: boys club stands up to poachers Published on 6 February 2014 Alan Campbell IN what may set a precedent, a boys club has made a complaint to Scottish Football Association compliance officer Vincent Lunny about the non-payment of compensation money allegedly owed by Hearts and Rangers. Musselburgh Windsor FC, who celebrated their 60th anniversary last year, say they have taken the stance to alert boys clubs throughout Scotland that they are due money from professional clubs. Their own complaint relates to an under-15 goalkeeper who joined Hearts, and two younger outfield players who were released to join Rangers. The club president, Scott Robertson, says his club is spending more money pursuing the complaint than it will actually get if Hearts and Rangers are forced to pay up. That is because boys clubs are due just £10 every time a senior club takes one of their registered players - a situation Robertson calls "disgraceful". As some 2700 boys, from the age of 10 upwards, are registered with senior clubs, boys clubs are frequently plundered for their best players. The compensation is set at just £10. Yet within the senior system, clubs can demand between £600 and £15,000 for a boy who wants to switch to another team. Explaining why Musselburgh Windsor have decided to take a stand over the £10 the club say is owed to them by Hearts, and £20 by Rangers, Robertson said: "To be due just £10 for a promising player we have probably nurtured for many years is bad enough. For that sum not to be paid, and for us to have to spend time and resources pursuing it, is really adding insult to injury. "Since the compensation rule -known as the training fund contribution - was introduced by the SFA in 2006 it has been almost completely ignored by the professional clubs. There must be hundreds and hundreds of cases of non-payments to boys clubs. "I came across the rule completely by accident - I don't think other boys clubs are even aware they are due money from professional clubs who have taken their players since 2006. "The onus is on the pro clubs to make the payments to the Scottish Youth Football Association who should then redistribute the money to the relevant boys clubs. I don't blame the SYFA or the SFA for this. It's the clubs who haven't been making the payments." Musselburgh Windsor, for whom former Scotland striker Kenny Miller once played, believe that not only should the senior clubs pay all the compensation they are due - which could run into thousands of pounds - but that the £10 should be replaced by something more realistic. "Boys clubs are facing escalating costs for facilities, kit and mandatory SFA coaching courses," Robertson pointed out. "Sponsorship is tailing off and some clubs are really struggling to make ends meet. Yet despite increasing difficulties, and the fact that almost every boy in Scotland starts his football career with one of our clubs, there is no money trickling back down from the top. "What you have to bear in mind is that once a boy is taken from us and joins a professional club he can be subject to what has been described as a 'children's transfer market'. The senior clubs receive sums of between £600 and £15,000 when boys as young as eleven move between clubs. "Meanwhile we get £10 - or not as has been the case. That figure is far too low. If it was even raised to £50 it might make the senior clubs think twice about signing so many of our players. At the moment they are like kids in a sweet shop. They pick and choose our best players and take as many as they want. "The reason our club has made a complaint to the SFA's compliance officer is because we want to make all boys clubs aware that they haven't been receiving the payments they are due - paltry though they are. "We believe all the money owed to the boys clubs should be paid retrospectively. A debt is a debt, whether it's owed for a week or seven years." Last night an SFA spokesman said: "We cannot comment until such time as a notice of complaint has been issued. However, the compliance officer does investigate all matters referred to him to determine whether there is a case to answer." " I'll give them the 20 if it shuts them up. I agree with the figure being too low though, 'ten quid a player' -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) I'll swing by Musselburgh tonight & drop off the tenner Hearts owe. Sorted. Edited February 6, 2014 by sjc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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