Jacksgranda Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It was Whyte whilst owner of the club who held back payment of PAYE & N.I. Yourself and others can dress this up whichever way you like but those are the facts. Without a doubt Murray and Lloyds would have known of this tax issue of Whytes so imo they too are complicit in what happened but HMRC should have shown a sense of responsibility by not allowing Whyte to withhold PAYE for the best part of 9 months. This was approx £15 million PAYE accumulated over 9 months, why did HMRC allow such a sum to be built up over such a period of time, knowing full well they were already investigating Whyte for similar. Is PAYE paid to the Revenue every month? Or is it every quarter, like V.A.T.? If it's every quarter, I can see why it wasn't paid for the best part of 9 months, with seemingly no action having been taken. First quarter missed, promises made to pay etc, etc, 2nd quarter missed, morepromises, etc etc, third quarter payment approaches the boom is lowered. Although I was surprised that HMRC let it run so far, too, given Whyte's track record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) This is hilarious. Having been told about how over-zealous HMRC have been in one sphere, we're now being told they should have been much more stringent in another. They simply believe that this body of the state should at all times endeavour to favour Rangers. Stupid spoilt children. Edited August 5, 2014 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It was Whyte whilst owner of the club who held back payment of PAYE & N.I. Yourself and others can dress this up whichever way you like but those are the facts. Without a doubt Murray and Lloyds would have known of this tax issue of Whytes so imo they too are complicit in what happened but HMRC should have shown a sense of responsibility by not allowing Whyte to withhold PAYE for the best part of 9 months. This was approx £15 million PAYE accumulated over 9 months, why did HMRC allow such a sum to be built up over such a period of time, knowing full well they were already investigating Whyte for similar. Same reason why the Health & Safety Executive don't send an official to your house to follow you around shouting "Don't shove your dick in the blender! Don't shove your dick in the blender!" every time you walk into your kitchen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) Would do suggest they should have done youngsy? Remember as much as it troubles you "Craig Whyte was Rangers". Stopped oldco Rangers from trading? Warned the fans about Whyte? And as Willie pointed out, were hmrc due oldco Rangers anything after the attitude they had shown towards hmrc? Remember they went as far as having hmrc employees followed and photographed and given the clubs general attitude of dishonesty and obfuscation towards hmrc I think Rangers and their fans were owed SFA by hmrc. Edited August 5, 2014 by AberdeenBud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Same reason why the Health & Safety Executive don't send an official to your house to follow you around shouting "Don't shove your dick in the blender! Don't shove your dick in the blender!" every time you walk into your kitchen. I thought they did. Who's that guy in the kitchen then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 P.A.Y. E. dodging c***s doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely as tax dodging c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I thought they did. Who's that guy in the kitchen then? Your butler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I thought they did. Who's that guy in the kitchen then? Dicken Blender 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Dicken Blender aka Richard Carnage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Are Rangers fans really saying that HMRC should have forced administration over the WTC sooner? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Are Rangers fans really saying that HMRC should have forced administration over the WTC sooner? They haven't a clue what they're saying, but they're very cross indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Are Rangers fans really saying that HMRC should have forced administration over the WTC sooner? If they had thought Craig Whyte was a cyclist, they probably would have done... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) If they had thought Craig Whyte was a cyclist, they probably would have done... Edit. Goddam phone put in wrong smilie. Edited August 5, 2014 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Then they'd be bleating about losing the opportunity to settle their debts via the European money ... in short they just want to lay the blame elsewhere as it tarnishes 'the old club's reputation' ... they like to cling onto the myth about them being respected and having dignity. I'm afraid it really is that simple. They need to externalise this thing that happened to their club, lest they examine why it could. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Maybe because they thought the club had a board of directors who were responsible to ensure such things would not happen. This was not a wee one man band limited company operated solely by CW. You paint a picture of CW receiving all the correspondence from HMRC and squirreling it away in his briefcase with the directors unaware of the problems like some dumb housewife. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Then they'd be bleating about losing the opportunity to settle their debts via the European money ... in short they just want to lay the blame elsewhere as it tarnishes 'the old club's reputation' ... they like to cling onto the myth about them being respected and having dignity. In a nutshell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Same reason why the Health & Safety Executive don't send an official to your house to follow you around shouting "Don't shove your dick in the blender! Don't shove your dick in the blender!" every time you walk into your kitchen. Hardly an answer to the question is it. HMRC had a responsibility to the employees to ensure their PAYE & N.I. was paid, allowing the withholding of it for such a long period of time is irresponsible by HMRC, knowing full well that Whyte was under their investigation for similar. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hardly an answer to the question is it. HMRC had a responsibility to the employees to ensure their PAYE & N.I. was paid, allowing the withholding of it for such a long period of time is irresponsible by HMRC, knowing full well that Whyte was under their investigation for similar. So Rangers should have been shut down earlier? Possibly ending their season and destroying any chance of a faked rebirth? I couldnt agree more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I love it when Youngsy shuffles in, then can't remember what he came in for, so makes something up before he shuffles out again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Bloody hell page after page of D's and P's ranting and raving and densboy contradicting himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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