Walking Down The Halbeath Road

[DA Baracus]

17 minutes ago, GordieBoy80 said:

3 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

The club have pivoted back to having a manager who will help 'bring through youth' with McPake, at least going by the stuff Cook and McPake have said.
Why did they abandon this for Grant and Hughes? Just another question to ask about those two abysmal appointments. 
Let's hope that McPake is also not an abysmal appointment. Appointing a manager who has just relegated their previous team can't go wrong...

As someone who enjoys pedantry, you'll appreciate that McPake didn't relegate his previous club. Mark McGhee did.

McPake wasn't in charge when it was official, but he certainly did relegate them.

[Stellaboz]

No he didn't. 

[Rob1885]

McPake wasn't in charge when it was official, but he certainly did relegate them.

Just not true at all [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

[DA Baracus]

So Dundee's entire season was really just the games McGhee was in charge of then?

Edited May 31, 2022 by DA Baracus

[RawB93]

McPake "relegated" us by virtue of failing to build a squad capable of surviving in the league above, which McGhee was then left with.

I think he'd have performed better than him if kept on but not by much. 

I think/hope he'll do well for you, but he's at least 80% responsible for us going down.

[Lord Snooty]

McPake will be judged this coming season.  He'll either sink or swim as a manager. Can hardly judge him on his season in the Premiership. CD at PSJ won the 2 nae-crowds COVID cups, everyone raved about him. He's just had a stinker of a season.

[GordieBoy80]

So Dundee's entire season was really just the games McGhee was in charge of then?

When McPake was punted Dundee were 11th and 3 points ahead of St. Johnstone with a game in hand.

Last time I checked 11th in the SPFL Premiership is not an automatic relegation place.

[da_no_1]

I'm glad Yogi didn't relegate us. Some boy.

[DAFC.]

12 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

McPake wasn't in charge when it was official, but he certainly did relegate them.

What a mental take this is. They were 11th when he was sacked and on a good run of form. 

[Shandon Par]

Jim McIntyre fucked up recruitment-wise the season we went up (we probably started the previous season with a stronger team) but I don’t think that made him a bad manager. He’d shown in previous seasons he was capable of spotting the weaknesses in the team and recruited well to address them. McPake won a playoff - something Bert Paton, JJ, AJ, Crawford and the clown failed to do. 
 

[DA Baracus]

32 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said:

McPake will be judged this coming season.  He'll either sink or swim as a manager. Can hardly judge him on his season in the Premiership. CD at PSJ won the 2 nae-crowds COVID cups, everyone raved about him. He's just had a stinker of a season.

Why can't he be judged on his season in the Premiership?

7 minutes ago, GordieBoy80 said:

When McPake was punted Dundee were 11th and 3 points ahead of St. Johnstone with a game in hand.

They'd won 5 out of 26 league games. Their form was very poor whilst St Johnstone's was picking up. If Dundee continued with the form McPake had them in, they would have went down.

There's a Dundee fan above who says McPake is at least 80% at fault for their relegation.

[Stellaboz]

I forgot Baracus is actually Mark McGhee, no idea why I tolerate the c**t.

[DA Baracus]

3 minutes ago, DAFC. said:

What a mental take this is. They were 11th when he was sacked and on a good run of form. 

No they weren't. They beat Dumbarton and Peterhead in the cup. Peter Grant's shite beat Dumbarton in the (league) cup! They were in utterly stinking league form, albeit had won at Hearts, although that was their first league win in ages. 

[DAFC.]

13 hours ago, Trump said:

Hearing you are looking to sign David Moyo who’s just had his contract terminated by Hamilton Accies.

That would be rather strange as we already have 4 strikers at the club. 

[Rob1885]

Dundee were 11th. If they'd finished 11th they'd have finished in the Premiership play off spot. That doesn't equate to "Mcpake relegated them"

[DA Baracus]

6 minutes ago, da_no_1 said:

I'm glad Yogi didn't relegate us. Some boy.

There's a difference between replacing a manager in October and in February. 

[DA Baracus]

Just now, Rob1885 said:

Dundee were 11th. If they'd finished 11th they'd have finished in the Premiership play off spot. That doesn't equate to "Mcpake relegated them"

And their form was shite whilst St Johnstone's was picking up. If Dundee continued with McPake's form they would have finished bottom.

[ebobsboy]

McPake also knows how to get teams promoted. Were Dundee promoted a season too early? Seems to have been mentioned in the press. Regardless I think McPake is a decent appointment, probably the best you could have got, that said he probably has to get you back up at the first time of asking. No mean feat in this league. 

[da_no_1]

33 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

There's a difference between replacing a manager in October and in February. 

There's also a difference between managing a club before they were relegated & being in charge at the time they were relegated.

You're having a fucking nightmare here. Best to give in. McPake did not relegate Dundee. Fact

[DA Baracus]

2 minutes ago, da_no_1 said:

There's also a difference between managing a club before they were relegated & being in charge at the time they were relegated.

You're having a fucking nightmare here. Best to give in. McPake did not relegate Dundee. Fact

I'm not having a nightmare here at all. Is the Dundee fan also having a nightmare? He stated McPake is at least 80% to blame. Once again, 5 wins in 26 league games was McPake's record. In what way does that mean he bears no responsibility for Dundee's relegation? McGhee had the opportunity to turn it around so must also take some of the blame, but he had no opportunity to make signings and was taking over a team in desperately poor form who were only heading in one direction.