Shandon Par Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Derek Adams shamelessly courting Raith Gone for Aitken in the poll. Would be deighted with Bollan too. As GordieBoy alludes to, I think there's a good chance our next boss is still in a job - no other reason for Potter to still be in charge (apart from the unthinkable!). Aitken because he seems like he'd instill a touch of class and professionalism throughout the club - could see it being a proper 'era' under him. A few Stranraer players following him would do nicely. Bollan because he's probably just what we need to toughen up and get out of this league. He has proved he can knock a team together almost from scratch, is good with young players and can spot waifs and strays who can become very decent players. I wouldn't be too chuffed about Pressley - I think he thinks he's brighter than he really is. Maybe too similar to Potter and would come in with a 'philosophy' about how to play the game when what we need is a manager who knows what it takes to build a winning team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Raith get more money from the league. Raith have a smaller squad and a smaller staff. They aren't currently paying two managers. They didn't spunk some cash in January on players who have made no difference (or at least nowhere near as much). In short, their expenditures are less than ours. It's pretty easy maths. Incidentally, what managers can they afford that we cannot? You have to remember that Raith are playing in a higher division with more visibility, which means they could be quite attractive to a manager who may see that job as a 'stepping stone'. People are questioning why we are sitting on our hands and watching while Raith appoint Adams. Counter argument is we can't afford him. Well if Raith have a smaller squad but are pretty comfortable in the league above questions need asked. The experiment of pumping money into our youth setup is now looking a bit of a disaster. Let's get into the chamionship first and use the cash to get a few older heads like the way Forfar or Stranraer have done. Getting consistently outplayed by three part time sides who have sub 1000 crowds is not acceptable with our budget and if that means scrapping the U20s then so be it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Let's get into the chamionship first and use the cash to get a few older heads like the way Forfar or Stranraer have done.it. I'd agree - worry about getting out of this league by any means necessary and put a stop to long contracts for players who add very little to the team. We're not a creche where kids can play at being a League One footballer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Would be really chuffed with either Adams, Johnston, Bollan or Aitken. Just to tackle what DA Baracus has said about the draw of managing the Pars. We've obviously been nearer the top of Scottish football than the bottom for the past 30 years so, naturally, most people would associate us with being either top of the First Division challenging or in the Premier League. Someone coming into us with a good mindset might look at the success of ICT, Hamilton Accies, Ross County etc and compare that to our club and where we are. The teams that I listed there have all been, quite recently, where we are right now. Each club has a pretty small fan base, even compared to us, yet have found a route to becoming successful and challenging in the top flight. Someone might say to themselves, "Well, if they teams can do it, there's no reason the Pars can't." As much as Baracus likes to play us down as not being a big club in Scottish football, he cannot deny we have a very healthy fan base, definitely top 10 in the country. What I'm getting at is, if the new man was looking at the vacancy and determines that he can bring good football and a winning title next season, maybe if that fan fbase can be tapped into, along with decent economic backing from the board, it could result in us up challenging for the Championship and, who knows, going on to do an ICT and finishing high in the SPL, getting to cup finals etc. That's all hypothetical but it might be something that is interesting to guys like Adams. Just a thought. Wages will really play a big part though. Would be very happy with anyone on that poll list tbh apart from Calderwood or Pressley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 New name to the poll: Jim Leishman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Martins Willy Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Will McCann still be there next season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terracingtam Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Will McCann still be there next season? Was McCann there this season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Neil McCann't 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up go the heads Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Danny Lennon, s role with Alloa will allow him to continue to work in the Scotland national setup. Would have been a great if the timing was better? What's the experiment re the youth set up??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Went with Johnston. Would be pretty happy with either Aitken or Bollan though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black and White Tragic Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 In the Dunfermline Press this week... "Fancy a challenge? Have you got what it takes to manage what is currently alleged to be a footballing team? Do you have the managerial prowess to take this now pitiful club, from 29th place in the Scottish leagues all the way back to the top flight? Follow in the footsteps of the legends who have graced the stadium of this once mighty giant; Jock Stein, Sir Alex Ferguson, Jim Leishman MBE, Istvan Kozma, Bert Paton, Charlie Dickson, Norrie McCathie and of course the legendary David Hay. You will of course have the backing of the largest support in the division, and larger than the combined fan base of all the other teams in Fife. Unfortunately remuneration is limited due to budgetary constraints in these austere times, and to pay off the incumbent managerial squad. Please apply in writing to East End Park, Halbeath Road, Dunfermline. Winner will be drawn from 50/50 Tombola on the eve of next season." -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) People are questioning why we are sitting on our hands and watching while Raith appoint Adams. Counter argument is we can't afford him. Well if Raith have a smaller squad but are pretty comfortable in the league above questions need asked. The experiment of pumping money into our youth setup is now looking a bit of a disaster. Let's get into the chamionship first and use the cash to get a few older heads like the way Forfar or Stranraer have done. Getting consistently outplayed by three part time sides who have sub 1000 crowds is not acceptable with our budget and if that means scrapping the U20s then so be it. Have I missed the appointment of Derek Adams as Raith manager? Forfar and Stranraer haven't "pumped money" into ageing experienced squads, they've used what little money they have to good effect. Not quite sure how scrapping the U20s set-up would automatically mean success for the first team? Need that one clarified. We had fairly reasonable success last season whilst operating an U20s side. I really don't see the link. Edited April 29, 2015 by da_no_1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) People are questioning why we are sitting on our hands and watching while Raith appoint Adams. Counter argument is we can't afford him. Well if Raith have a smaller squad but are pretty comfortable in the league above questions need asked. The experiment of pumping money into our youth setup is now looking a bit of a disaster. Let's get into the chamionship first and use the cash to get a few older heads like the way Forfar or Stranraer have done. Getting consistently outplayed by three part time sides who have sub 1000 crowds is not acceptable with our budget and if that means scrapping the U20s then so be it. Ugh. I despise this sort of short term thinking. We need to think long term and sustainability, and in Scottish football, youth is a large part of that. Short term thinking like this got us in to pretty major bother before (you know, that whole administration nearly liquidation thing; you must remember surely?). Can you answer why we did absolutely fine for the vast majority of last season in the league without the type of 'older heads' you refer to? There's no big puzzle. We are where we are because the management has been shit this season. Our squad last season easily finished 2nd, and that was with a slump at the end. It shows that actually the players were decent enough, but for whatever reason utterly crumbled this season. Edited April 29, 2015 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) There's no big puzzle. We are where we are because the management has been shit this season. Our squad last season easily finished 2nd, and that was with a slump at the end. It shows that actually the players were decent enough, but for whatever reason utterly crumbled this season. Exactly, no need to release everyone and start again with a complete change on how we approach things, Just get a manager who'll get guys like falkingham and geggan performing anywhere close to their capabilities, these are players we've seen perform well in the championship ffs, they are good players, let's get the best out of them. Edited April 29, 2015 by parsforlife 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Not really convinced that our players are good enough and that our young players are developing. If anything most have gone backwards this season. The season we finished second we were decent. I dont know what has happened, is it all down to bad mangement? Not saying im right just an opinion. Lets get out this league then sort out the youth system. Its a bit of a pipe dream atm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 The players definitely need to take a huge share of the blame, and because of their pishy performances this season I doubt many would be sad to see any of them leave, but quite a few are still under contract, so the new manager will have to work with them. Hopefully he can get them performing again. As parsforlife said, some of them were performing well in the Championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 On Saturday I saw some (male) Pars fans wearing jeggings, and a couple wearing leggings (with VPL on show). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 On Saturday I saw some (male) Pars fans wearing jeggings, and a couple wearing leggings (with VPL on show). I hope you violently attacked them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 If you take our under contract players who i think are Williamson, Martin, Geggan, Falkingham, Byrne, Hopkirk, Wallace, Moffat, El Bakthaoui That IMO is a decent core Williamson-everyone knows what he can do on form Martin- had a good season especially compared to the rest of the squad, regular scotland call ups. Geggan- very poor for most of the season, occasionally showing his full ability tho, however if you look at a longer period he has performed well at this level and above for 5 of the last 6 seasons, surely that can't be written off? Falkingham- not reached his standards but still ok for the most part, again over the long term 3/4 seasons he has been excellent. Bryne- capable but needs to kick on, make or break season IMO Hopkirk-good signing and useful addition. Wallace- excellent when fit, hopefully we may see him next year. Moffat-not scored nearly enough, still good link up play and his record at Ayr was excellent. Faiss- really beginning to perform now, useful player to have. Now I accept not all will return to their previous form, but surely there's a decent chance its been just a blip for most of them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Board meeting on Monday. Potter been speaking to the board this week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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