kennie makevin Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, gannonball said: You should stop supporting your son and leave your wife then going by a certain moon howlers logic. Some things in life don't have a black and white answer. The only 'moon howling' I see on these pages are from those who would accept, appease, tolerate and accommodate sectarianism, bigotry and religious tribalism. Some things don't have a black and white , or orange and green, answer but some do and zero tolerance to racism, bigotry and sectarianism is one of them. If anyone I was close to developed a fondness for Glasgow Rangers I'd be concerned as to why. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, kennie makevin said: If anyone I was close to developed a fondness for Glasgow Rangers I'd be concerned as to why. Maybe because you don't realise that for many, the unsavoury and shameful aspects of the club that are no doubt there are not what initially attracts or influences them to support the club. As an example, I wasn't a regular match going fan until I was around 12 or 13. My experience of Rangers up until that point was watching them predominantly on TV with my dad who has no religious persuasion. I was naïve to many of the issues that are there, but by the time I fully understood them I'd say I was too much in love with football and Rangers to even consider not being a Rangers fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 06/09/2023 at 15:06, TheScarf said: And 99% of them are gloryhunters who ignore their local SPFL club and support Rangers because it makes them feel better about their own shite lives when they win 80% plus of their domestic games. Imagine basing your whole personality, your whole mood, whether you're delighted or raging, on how your football team did at the weekend. When The Caley lose, which is a lot at the moment as we're fucking dogshit, I'm annoyed for about 6 minutes then I forget about it. Might be in the minority here but when Kilmarnock lose, even after all these years of losing, it ruins my weekend. Don’t want to do anything on the Saturday night and then on the Sunday it’s one of the first things that comes into your head when you wake up. We lost. Horrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, AJF said: Maybe because you don't realise that for many, the unsavoury and shameful aspects of the club that are no doubt there are not what initially attracts or influences them to support the club. As an example, I wasn't a regular match going fan until I was around 12 or 13. My experience of Rangers up until that point was watching them predominantly on TV with my dad who has no religious persuasion. I was naïve to many of the issues that are there, but by the time I fully understood them I'd say I was too much in love with football and Rangers to even consider not being a Rangers fan. Good explanation and I mean that genuinely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sortmeout said: Might be in the minority here but when Kilmarnock lose, even after all these years of losing, it ruins my weekend. Don’t want to do anything on the Saturday night and then on the Sunday it’s one of the first things that comes into your head when you wake up. We lost. Horrible. Nah fuck that, I don't let something so trivial affect my whole day/weekend/week. I can't let a bunch of absolute jobbers, who dont even know I exist, affect my state of mind. It's just a football club to me, if they had never existed my life wouldn't be any different. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 hours ago, Mr Meeker said: Can't believe I'm getting involved, but can't avoid it. I support Dundee United. My wife supports Rangers. My eldest son is a United fan. My youngest likes Rangers. Are my Rangers supporting family bigots? No. Well……..to answer that you would need to tell us if your wife and youngest go to games and if so do they get involved in the cultural songs? If yes - they are probably bigots. If No - probably not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Nah f**k that, I don't let something so trivial affect my whole day/weekend/week. I can't let a bunch of absolute jobbers, who dont even know I exist, affect my state of mind. It's just a football club to me, if they had never existed my life wouldn't be any different. The only time I can ever really not feel that way is the games that I don’t attend but even then. Last season you beat us in the cup on the Friday night and it absolutely destroyed my whole weekend. Another thing I normally get is a really sore head, regardless of result, quite soon after the game. Wonder why we bother to be honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sortmeout said: The only time I can ever really not feel that way is the games that I don’t attend but even then. Last season you beat us in the cup on the Friday night and it absolutely destroyed my whole weekend. Another thing I normally get is a really sore head, regardless of result, quite soon after the game. Wonder why we bother to be honest. I guess football affects people in different ways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressball Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 10/09/2023 at 21:21, velo army said: We're actually pretty good at calling out the bigoted nonsense from Rangers, and to their credit none of the buns on here defend it. I don't know what they do when they're at the ground or in their everyday life to call it out, because this is an anonymous forum where people can be whomever they choose to be. Kincardine and his 1690 fetish? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Sortmeout said: The only time I can ever really not feel that way is the games that I don’t attend but even then. Last season you beat us in the cup on the Friday night and it absolutely destroyed my whole weekend. Another thing I normally get is a really sore head, regardless of result, quite soon after the game. Wonder why we bother to be honest. I am similar. There are things in my life which are obviously more important than football, but there is no taking away from the fact that football makes up a large part of it. If we suffer a bad result I have a nagging feeling at the back of my head for days. Kind of like you know there is a shitty task at work you need to deal with and you’ve been putting it off for ages. You can get on with other things but the feeling just lingers there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Sortmeout said: Might be in the minority here but when Kilmarnock lose, even after all these years of losing, it ruins my weekend. Don’t want to do anything on the Saturday night and then on the Sunday it’s one of the first things that comes into your head when you wake up. We lost. Horrible. When I started supporting the Dons the women who worked with my mother knew the result by the look on my face when I came through the door. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: When I started supporting the Dons the women who worked with my mother knew the result by the look on my face when I came through the door. That was probably a couple of days before the game too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooooft. Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: When I started supporting the Dons the women who worked with my mother knew the result by the look on my face when I came through the door. Did the woman who worked with your mother live at your house or was it when you walked through the door of their work? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ooooft. said: Did the woman who worked with your mother live at your house or was it when you walked through the door of their work? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 19 hours ago, alta-pete said: ...and my son goes to see Stirling Albion. Funny old world, eh? Is there a specific reason for that, did you encourage him to support another team from the one you support, for the obvious reason, and do you go along to Stirling Albion games with him? My neighbour wanted to take his son to football games, but didn't want him subjected to the shite that goes along with supporting The Rangers. 4 hours ago, AJF said: Maybe because you don't realise that for many, the unsavoury and shameful aspects of the club that are no doubt there are not what initially attracts or influences them to support the club. As an example, I wasn't a regular match going fan until I was around 12 or 13. My experience of Rangers up until that point was watching them predominantly on TV with my dad who has no religious persuasion. I was naïve to many of the issues that are there, but by the time I fully understood them I'd say I was too much in love with football and Rangers to even consider not being a Rangers fan. Yeah as i said in an earlier post, there must be a time when you've matured to a certain age that you absolute understand the sectarian bile that comes along with supporting The Rangers, and if you are even purely just there to support them on the pitch, it still must weigh on your mind that the club is so steeped in bigotry. I just can't imagine anyone wanting no part of that would want to take their kids to their games, maybe can separate it in your own mind, which has to be difficult enough, but you absolutely know you're taking impressionable kids into that toxic culture, and risking them being influenced by it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooooft. Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 52 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I’m still none the wiser how she saw you coming in the door to be honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasda2 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Any ology type students out there looking for the meaning of “institutional” as in “institutional bigotry” need only read on here the rational behind people aligning with mass bigotry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Sortmeout said: The only time I can ever really not feel that way is the games that I don’t attend but even then. Last season you beat us in the cup on the Friday night and it absolutely destroyed my whole weekend. Another thing I normally get is a really sore head, regardless of result, quite soon after the game. Wonder why we bother to be honest. I wouldn't say my weekend is ruined after a defeat, but it does lift my spirits, brightening up my weekend when we win. Think i'm so used to us losing i'm desensitized to it, but a win still feels something special. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, fasda2 said: Any ology type students out there looking for the meaning of “institutional” as in “institutional bigotry” need only read on here the rational behind people aligning with mass bigotry. Like being part of the KKK when you aren't a racist, you just like carrying a burning torch and dressing up in white robes with a pillow case on your head. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooooft. Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Like being part of the KKK when you aren't a racist, you just like carrying a burning torch and dressing up in white robes with a pillow case on your head. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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