Howlin' Wilf Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 http://www.sonstrust.net/ Statement from the Sonstrust. They've been assured that the club would own the new ground, so that's that worry settled. Sonstrust, as always, on top of things. Fine and dandy. I must have imagined the specific answer to my specific question at the consultation event. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I liked Gils. Not the best at crossing the ball but his work rate was good and he did a job for us. That said, new boss means new team. If Aitken wants to shape his own side then that's fine. Ultimately it's Aitken who is judged and who carries accountability for results. Best of luck to Gils but this is Aitken's Dumbarton and he's building his own side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Fine and dandy. I must have imagined the specific answer to my specific question at the consultation event. Well nobody else could remember it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Wouldn't be the first time a business has given out mixed messages depending on who a person speaks with. Could easily be a case of a mistake being made rather than a deliberate attempt to dupe the fans. What is for certain is that we need to keep asking questions. If we're not happy with the answers then we act collectively to make our concerns known. Knowing Simon is keeping his interest in this going is a very good thing for the trust and the fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 According to the BBC Murray will not be raiding the club for players: "St Mirren boss Ian Murray says he won't be raiding former club Dumbarton since their part-time players cannot afford to take a drop in wages." Nae luck Ian, sometimes being part-time actually has it's benefits in terms of being able to add to a players outside income bringin them well over what the likes of St Mirren could offer. I certainly hope that if Aggy does have an offer from St Mirren that it comes nowhere near to matching our wage + his wage outside of part-time football. I'm not convinced full time would be a wise move for Aggy, too much to lose for what could be a year as a backup player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 According to the BBC Murray will not be raiding the club for players: "St Mirren boss Ian Murray says he won't be raiding former club Dumbarton since their part-time players cannot afford to take a drop in wages." Hmmm...I'd be careful of taking this at face value. However, any part-time player with a job outside football considering going full-time has a big call to make. Suppose you were to sign for say Morton, and by early December the Manager was sacked, that could be a real game-changer in every respect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 http://www.sonstrust.net/ Statement from the Sonstrust. They've been assured that the club would own the new ground, so that's that worry settled. Sonstrust, as always, on top of things. It says the stadium will be owned and controlled by the club. it doesn't say anything about the land the stadium is to be built on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayetherock Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm glad gills is away 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sons1872 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Idiot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm glad gills is away Idiot Yas, fight! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It says the stadium will be owned and controlled by the club. it doesn't say anything about the land the stadium is to be built on. Yes but if the club owns the stadium then by property law it also owns the land underneath it and the air above, it's all part of a very complex conveyancing law that contains lots of interesting clauses to cover flats etc and stopping people charging planes to fly over them etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm glad gills is away Idiot Yas, fight! I heard ayetherock say he could batter you, sons1872. FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsanorak Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I remember one team who had a new build stadium with a gym in it. On a match day they were only allowed a certain amount of the car park spaces and you had to park elsewhere, I think it was Clyde. So there can be problems caused by owning or renting only a part of a site. I think Aitken has to be careful about how many of last years squad we lose. I cant help imagining that the players might consider that dfc needs them more than they need dfc, as such they might expect better pay. That said, £600 p wk is ridiculous for us. if thats what we're paying i hope someone's balancing the books. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 What's this figure of £600 per week about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I remember one team who had a new build stadium with a gym in it. On a match day they were only allowed a certain amount of the car park spaces and you had to park elsewhere, I think it was Clyde. So there can be problems caused by owning or renting only a part of a site. I think Aitken has to be careful about how many of last years squad we lose. I cant help imagining that the players might consider that dfc needs them more than they need dfc, as such they might expect better pay. That said, £600 p wk is ridiculous for us. if thats what we're paying i hope someone's balancing the books. Where did the 600 quid per week figure come from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1872 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I realise that I am in the minority but I am not that bothered about Gils leaving. I found him such a frustrating player to watch over the last couple of seasons, he undoubtedly has talent but he has no pace and his decision making was poor. With regards Aggy, again I wouldn't be that fussed if he left, if he stays great as we need as strong as squad as possible. He did finish the season strongly but he was really poor at the start and he does have the tendancy to slow everything down in midfield as he has to get the ball onto his left foot all the time. We need a midfield that not only has some dig (especially as Turner is away) but also can move the ball quickly. I would far rather hold onto Fleming than Aggy in my humble opinon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimistic Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I think Murray mentioned it in his interview, but I'd imagine it was his job and his football earnings combined 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Sounds like Murray's a bit seething to me if he's disclosing shit like that in the paper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry Fields Forever Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I see Ray McKinnon has snapped up Darren Petrie from United. Let's hope he reproduces the form he showed with us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I realise that I am in the minority but I am not that bothered about Gils leaving. I found him such a frustrating player to watch over the last couple of seasons, he undoubtedly has talent but he has no pace and his decision making was poor. With regards Aggy, again I wouldn't be that fussed if he left, if he stays great as we need as strong as squad as possible. He did finish the season strongly but he was really poor at the start and he does have the tendancy to slow everything down in midfield as he has to get the ball onto his left foot all the time. We need a midfield that not only has some dig (especially as Turner is away) but also can move the ball quickly. I would far rather hold onto Fleming than Aggy in my humble opinon How is Agnew switching the ball onto his left foot, or moving his body shape to allow him to receive the ball with his left foot, any slower than a right footed player doing the same? Got to disagree about keeping Fleming over Agnew. I like them both, but for me Agnew is the superior player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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