Stewbo Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I think you're right with Savage. He has a big arm but wasn't that productive against poor competition. Fales isn't one to blow up a pro day with incredible athleticism and he doesn't have any of the lazy stereotypical QB traits like ideal size or a big arm. Yeah I've not seen anything of Fales at all I dont think (he wasnt at the combine either was he?) so couldnt make a fair judge of him although his bio said hes 6-3 215lbs so he's got the prototypical size down at least if thats true. His average yards per completion wasnt bad either, 13.something for last season so making big throws wouldnt worry me at all if hes going to make a first down every time, not exactly exciting but I'd rather win boring games than lose epic ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee4Life1893 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 This will be the first real draft I have followed. I watched last years but didn't really get what was going on. The way I see it right now, from looking at historic mocks and who actually drafted who, is that it really is a bit of a lottery. I could say I'd love the Titans to draft this player or that player but what do I know? I know I don't want Manziel or Bortles. What if they go on to have HoF careers? I've read so many conflicting opinions on a lot of players that it's hard to form an opinion. I suppose all you can hope is that you have a good/lucky GM and coach. One pattern I've noticed is that the Kansas City Chiefs seem to always have a good percentage of their draft picks make it. There always seems to be a lot of them sought after in free agency as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 This will be the first real draft I have followed. I watched last years but didn't really get what was going on. The way I see it right now, from looking at historic mocks and who actually drafted who, is that it really is a bit of a lottery. I could say I'd love the Titans to draft this player or that player but what do I know? I know I don't want Manziel or Bortles. What if they go on to have HoF careers? I've read so many conflicting opinions on a lot of players that it's hard to form an opinion. I suppose all you can hope is that you have a good/lucky GM and coach. One pattern I've noticed is that the Kansas City Chiefs seem to always have a good percentage of their draft picks make it. There always seems to be a lot of them sought after in free agency as well. I seen a report that the Titans are high on Bortles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 According to Profootballtalk, there's "chatter in league circles" that the Bucs are eyeing a trade up to No. 2 from No. 7. Perhaps the Rams' efforts to make it appear as if they're seriously considering Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel are beginning to pay off. However, though the Bucs are believed to be open to selecting a quarterback, it's far from a guarantee that Manziel or any other signal caller would be the target of a trade up. The Rams are always open for business on draft weekend, and should be considered a legitimate candidate to trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the Lions have "made it clear" to Clemson WR Sammy Watkins that they're "very serious" about potentially trading up for him. Rapsheet has been beating the Watkins-to-Detroit drum for two months, and the player himself obviously believes it's a real possibility. We're typically leery of reports that so strongly link a team and player this team of year, but there appears to be some genuine smoke here. It wouldn't be a sensible move for a Lions team with a strong receiver duo, but many holes elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Somebody's going to trade for the Raider's No5 pick, I can just feel it.Possibly Buffalo or Tampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee4Life1893 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I seen a report that the Titans are high on Bortles We met with him at the combine but haven't had him in since. Can't see it. I think he's going top 10. According to Profootballtalk, there's "chatter in league circles" that the Bucs are eyeing a trade up to No. 2 from No. 7. Perhaps the Rams' efforts to make it appear as if they're seriously considering Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel are beginning to pay off. However, though the Bucs are believed to be open to selecting a quarterback, it's far from a guarantee that Manziel or any other signal caller would be the target of a trade up. The Rams are always open for business on draft weekend, and should be considered a legitimate candidate to trade down. I've heard they're looking for a 2nd for Glennon lol. Good luck with that. The Bucs gonna do a Redskins and trade the family silver? If they do, with the squad the Rams already have and the picks they're gonna have, there is no reason they shouldn't be a playoff team for years to come. . According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the Lions have "made it clear" to Clemson WR Sammy Watkins that they're "very serious" about potentially trading up for him. Rapsheet has been beating the Watkins-to-Detroit drum for two months, and the player himself obviously believes it's a real possibility. We're typically leery of reports that so strongly link a team and player this team of year, but there appears to be some genuine smoke here. It wouldn't be a sensible move for a Lions team with a strong receiver duo, but many holes elsewhere. Golden Tate gonna be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Possibly Buffalo or Tampa Last ridiculous rumour I heard was it's going to the Bucs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 More rumours Jets going to trade up into top 10 Browns "definitely" not picking Manziel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Jets going to trade up into top 10 Teddy boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Teddy boy... Odell Beckham Jnr more like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Or maybe Mike Evans???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewbo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Last ridiculous rumour I heard was it's going to the Bucs Cant see them trading up one spot with a team that have fairly different needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerSaint Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 If we're trading into the top 10 it better be for Ebron or Teddy. If someone has asked a Cleveland Brown "are you going to pick Johnny Manziel", you sure as hell aren't going to get them to say yes. Don't believe anything you read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DensParkNumber1 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I fully expect Bucs draft WR. Hopefully Mike Evans or Sammy Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 1 more sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplistic Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 2 more sleeps actually. Tonight, and the power nap I'm going to need before the draft! Planning to ewatch round 2 and maybe 3 also. I wont be watching on Saturday! No brits this year. Disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee4Life1893 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Come on, one more day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Mike Mayocks 1-15 mock draft 1. Houston: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina Comment: No surprise with this pick, especially after the owner this week called Clowney "obviously the best player in the draft." Interestingly, Mayock has pass-rushing LB Khalil Mack rated higher in his Top 100 Prospects list, but gives the Texans (or a team Houston is drafting for in a trade-down scenario) Clowney. 2. St. Louis: Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn Comment: Offensive tackle makes too much sense here, especially with a tackle who has Hall of Fame potential. LT Jake Long is coming off knee surgery and Joe Barksdale mans the right side for the Rams. This is one scenario where need meets best player available. 3. Jacksonville: Khalil Mack, LB, Buffalo Comment: There's been a lot of buzz this week about this being the possible landing spot for Manziel, but Mayock (and the teams he talks to) isn't buying it. Another need met with best available player. Mack is a perfect pass-rushing fit for Gus Bradley's defense as a hybrid end/linebacker. 4. Cleveland: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M Comment: This is a bit of a head-scratcher, but then again nothing should surprise you when it comes to the Browns on draft day. Matthews is worthy of this slot, but the Browns made a longterm commitment to Joe Thomas, which means Cleveland would be using the fourth overall pick on a right tackle. Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans or one of the quarterbacks you believe in (unless you don't believe in any of them) would seem more logical. 5. Oakland: Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson Comment: Among several needs, an offensive playmaker might be at the top of the Raiders' list. Watkins certainly matches that description. He would play a good Andre Johnson for Matt Schaub. 6. Atlanta: Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan Comment: The Falcons desperately need a defensive edge rusher or a tackle on offense. If they don't trade up for Clowney, as rumored, the gritty Lewan makes a ton of sense, especially with the other two tackles off the board. "It seems like no matter how I cut this, when I look at it, (Lewan) ends up in Atlanta at six," Mayock said last week in a conference call with reporters. 7. Tampa Bay: Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M Comment: This one seems destined to happen. The Bucs shipped Mike Williams to Buffalo in early April, making this a need. They brought in QB Josh McCown, who had great success with two big receivers in Chicago. And Evans and Vincent Jackson are both 6-foot-5 and 230 pounds. Throwing away the pencil; starting to write this one in with a pen. 8. Minnesota: Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma St. Comment: The Vikings never recovered after cutting Antoine Winfield. The play of their cornerbacks last season bordered on embarrassing. Xavier Rhodes is a solid building block. Rhodes and Gilbert would make an excellent tandem, especially in that throw-heavy division. 9. Buffalo: Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame Comment: This doesn't appear to fill the Bills' biggest need with two tackles in place. Cordy Glenn mans the left side, but Erik Pears, entering the final year of his contract, is viewed by some as a weak link on the right side. Martin can play all five positions. "I love the kid," Mayock said last week. "Even though I have him fourth as a tackle, he'd be my No. 1 center or my No. 1 guard. I believe that he is the only player in this draft that could start and play at a high level at all five offensive line positions." 10. Detroit: Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan St. Comment: Jim Caldwell likes his corners to be able to tackle, and Dennard might be the best tackling CB in the draft, and probably the most complete. No. 10 sounds a little high for Dennard, but it does fill a need for the Lions. 11. Tennessee: Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida Comment: Bortles seems like a very similar player to Jake Locker, who has had trouble staying healthy in Tennessee. Many observers have Derek Carr as the Titans' QB target, but this high for Carr might be a little rich. Mayock: Ebron is a 'top-10 talent' 12. New York Giants: Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina Comment: This is another pick that makes too much sense. The Giants lack a play-making tight end and Eli Manning lacks weapons. Ebron is the best tight end in the draft, and some have compared him to the 49ers' Vernon Davis. 13. St. Louis: Odell Beckham, WR, LSU Comment: The Rams are so in love with Manziel that they pass on him twice? In this scenario they do. That's a lot of pre-draft smoke being blown. Beckham is viewed as the third-best receiver. Pairing him with Tavon Austin would give Sam Bradford some help. 14. Chicago: Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville Comment: Pryor visited the Bears in April and afterward said the team lacked "certain pieces." He thought he'd be a good fit, bringing a physical presence to the defense. Teams like players that want them. 15. Pittsburgh: Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech Comment: The Steelers need to rebuild at cornerback, and Fuller and his physical style of play are a good fit for coach Mike Tomlin. » TUNE IN: "Mayock's 2014 Mock Draft" show will air at 9 p.m. ET Wednesday on NFL Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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