1320Lichtie Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 again words fail me How exactly? What exactly did he say wrong, apart from mentioning the relative? Go on, explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Yes. If she is going to do speaking at a BT rally she should realise that her performance will be commented on, which is all Campbell Gunn did, you jumping on it is embarassing. Where, in the unsolcited email he sent to the telegrapgh from his scottish government account, did Campbell Gunn critique her performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Where, in the unsolcited email he sent to the telegrapgh from his scottish government account, did Campbell Gunn critique her performance? By saying that she is not just an ordinary mum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 By saying that she is not just an ordinary mum? And how is that a critique of her "performance"? And why is a civil servant commenting on the perofmance and family life of poltical campaigners during a regulated camapign period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Just answer the question. Will you take responsiblity for any abuse that I direct at Gunn after you posted in this thread? if it makes you feel better by having to blame someone for your actions, fill yer boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 And how is that a critique of her "performance"? And why is a civil servant commenting on the perofmance and family life of poltical campaigners during a regulated camapign period? Em because she said she was and he said she wasnt? Big deal? And I dunno go and ask him, is he not allowed to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 How exactly? What exactly did he say wrong, apart from mentioning the relative? Go on, explain? I never said anything on what he said about Clair Lally, my issue is how he put information into the public domain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 True. Hopefully things start changing as we get nearer the date. tbh this referendum will be the first time I am allowed to vote so has grabbed my attention , i thought that maybe we were going to be in a for a refreshing political debate and set up in scotland with both sides setting thier stalls out early and banging these points across through debates, maybe even engaiging with the public in different ways and ideas. I mean they have allowed 16 year olds to votes, why not send local yes and no representitives to local schools to debate and interact with these pupils and ask these guys what matters to them and engage them rather than just letting 16 year olds stroll up and vote whoever their mates are voting for. That was just one idea, instead we have what has felt like a really long and now quite tiresome general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I never said anything on what he said about Clair Lally, my issue is how he put information into the public domain Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I mean they have allowed 16 year olds to votes, why not send local yes and no representitives to local schools to debate and interact with these pupils and ask these guys what matters to them and engage them rather than just letting 16 year olds stroll up and vote whoever their mates are voting for. That was just one idea, instead we have what has felt like a really long and now quite tiresome general election. To be fair this is happening all over all the time, one was done at the school my mum works at yesterday. ETA: And constantly seeing daily updates on how the voting has went on twitter/fb etc etc, probably see around 3 a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 if it makes you feel better by having to blame someone for your actions, fill yer boots Fool. I never said anything on what he said about Clair Lally, my issue is how he put information into the public domain So the issue isn't about Gunn being responsible for the abuse that she received on social media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 To be fair this is happening all over all the time, one was done at the school my mum works at yesterday. really ? well that is good, dont think it is happening to often down here in glasgow area, but as I have said right now it has the feeling of a long , drawn out general election campaign. I dont know maybe I was just expecting something alot more dynamic and exciting than what is going on at the moment. hopefully we see a bit more improvement moving into the final months . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Poll from the North East https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/scotland/254563/poll-majority-would-vote-yes-in-north-east/ Pleasing. I thought we weren't supposed to do well in the North East. so you have no issue how Campbell Gunn put this in to the public domain, don't you not think that it was a cowardly in any way, I also said if he was sure of his facts. just come out with them. but he did not he chose to use the route he used, but I stand by the fact she did not deserve the abuse she got no e-mail no abuse, abuse that was caused in some way by Campbell Gunn's actions, surely It wasn't even remotely cowardly. Start a count. Is that 3 or 4? Ignore H_B. Complete and utter b*llocks. You should work for Better Together. Nothing I said about the wonderful Ms Lamont was incorrect. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 really ? well that is good, dont think it is happening to often down here in glasgow area, but as I have said right now it has the feeling of a long , drawn out general election campaign. I dont know maybe I was just expecting something alot more dynamic and exciting than what is going on at the moment. hopefully we see a bit more improvement moving into the final months . Yes, the kids seem to be slightly in favour of NO to start off with and then after a debate has been had its YES. In most cases anyway and like I said I obviously might only be seeing positive stuff from the people I follow but I do see quite alot of results going like this, the one yesterday at my mums school ended up being 52 NO 48 YES after dont knows were taken out though, I honestly dunno how many 16 year olds will bother their arse to turn up right enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Hows it bollocks its his opinion on what was said? If you have your opinion on it then fair enough, I think the same as him, already linked this article but this sums up my opinion of what was said. http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/comment/bloggers/are-scots-genetically-incapable-of-making-political-decisions.1395750165 Because my entire point was what she said only looks bad when people quote that one snippet and say "Oh my God, Johann Lamont thinks Scots are too thick to make decisions!" Outrage etc. If you go back and look at the actual conversation, it's obvious she meant nothing of the sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Em because she said she was and he said she wasnt? Big deal? And I dunno go and ask him, is he not allowed to like? It's not his job to campaign for a yes vote, it's his job to speak for the Office of the First Minister I'm not sure where attempting to discredit a poltical campaigner falls within his taxpayer funded civil service remit. And that's ignoring the idea of a Govenrment official sending information on any individual to a newspaper which is, to be fair, pretty grubby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Nothing I said about the wonderful Ms Lamont was incorrect. Deal with it. As a general rule I assume everything you say is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Fool. So the issue isn't about Gunn being responsible for the abuse that she received on social media? What Gunn did and how he done it was poor, but if he had not done it, the abuse would have been less, but still unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I know hundreds of mothers and not 1 of them is involved in politics. Define "involved in politics". Are you saying any mothers who for example give out leaflets for Yes are no longer "ordinary mums"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Yes, the kids seem to be slightly in favour of NO to start off with and then after a debate has been had its YES. In most cases anyway and like I said I obviously might only be seeing positive stuff from the people I follow but I do see quite alot of results going like this, the one yesterday at my mums school ended up being 52 NO 48 YES after dont knows were taken out though, I honestly dunno how many 16 year olds will bother their arse to turn up right enough. haha true at 16 i would have just been happy with the day off and spent it getting pished with my pals would have probably still voted right enough but little or no thought would have gone into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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