Fotbawmad Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I find it hard to see how a "Yes" vote camp will win. The "No" vote camp has several advantages. Firstly, the unionist camp will be flooded with funds from the people down south. They'll use every scare tactic imaginable with "the devil you do you know, or the devil you don't know" being particularly powerful. Most important of all older voters have become so set in their ways. They couldn't contemplate voting for independence. Despite all that, I think the final vote will be far closer than anyone thinks. Due to younger voters being more likely to vote compared to general elections. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluxe Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Last October's TNS poll was putting naw voters at 53%, now it is just 42%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 It's a pity that the vote isn't exclusively online next year as it appears Yes would win comfortably if that was the case. Brandwatch, Europe's largest social media monitoring and analysis company, trawls 65 million data sources a day across the worldwide web, studying the opinions of millions of Twitter, Facebook and other online forums. 73% for Yes. http://www.brandwatch.com/scottishindependencereferendum/ No matter what kind of forum you go onto on any kind of subject be it Football, Fishing, Cars etc, Yes does seem to be in a healthy lead in the vast majortiy of Polls. Apathy will be one of the biggest factors IMO. I love it when I see the papers reporting that Yes is getting trounced. If that continues it will only ensure all Yes voters turn up and perhaps some Nos will just stay at home. Hope it's lashing with rain that day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I remember opinion polls two months before the 2011 SE had Labour a very healthy 45% lead over the SNP on 30%. Two weeks prior the polling day virtually every poll was neck and neck. Result - Massive landslide to the SNP who where able to form a majority govt. in a parliamentary system specifically designed to prevent any party having a majority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 It's a pity that the vote isn't exclusively online next year as it appears Yes would win comfortably if that was the case. 73% for Yes. http://www.brandwatch.com/scottishindependencereferendum/ No matter what kind of forum you go onto on any kind of subject be it Football, Fishing, Cars etc, Yes does seem to be in a healthy lead in the vast majortiy of Polls. Speaking of which Better Together are rapidly slowly approaching the magic 100k likes on their FB page. Only 700 to go. Well done to them when they finally make it. Yes managed it weeks ago and are now over 110k I suppose it opens up another point. We all know the internet is a massive source of information for the Yes side as every other outlet has their heads rammed up Better Together's backside, so the question is, Is there any indication of what percentage of the people of Scotland are connected to the internet and can access the facts? Leafleting in the High Street will get over this to a certain degree but if someone listens to the MSM, believes the lies and refuses to engage there is little hope of changing their mind Had this referendum been 25 years ago the no side would have won it at a canter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Speaking of which Better Together are rapidly slowly approaching the magic 100k likes on their FB page. Only 700 to go. Well done to them when they finally make it. Yes managed it weeks ago and are now over 110k I suppose it opens up another point. We all know the internet is a massive source of information for the Yes side as every other outlet has their heads rammed up Better Together's backside, so the question is, Is there any indication of what percentage of the people of Scotland are connected to the internet and can access the facts? Leafleting in the High Street will get over this to a certain degree but if someone listens to the MSM, believes the lies and refuses to engage there is little hope of changing their mind Had this referendum been 25 years ago the no side would have won it at a canter. Yes, facebook likes will make all the difference. The yes clowns really are fucking imbeciles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Yes, facebook likes will make all the difference. The yes clowns really are fucking imbeciles. Unfortunately I have to agree. Facebook likes being used as any kind of measure of how each campaign is going is just wrong on so many levels. Some of those likes probably aren't even from real people. However, if any side is going to be desperate enough to buy likes or twitter followers it's going to be Better Together. But like I said, they're irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Yes, facebook likes will make all the difference. The yes clowns really are fucking imbeciles. He didn't say that. I think it's called 'an observation'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Don't misunderstand me. I know it in no way reflects the voting intention it's just a source of amusement to me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 He didn't say that. I think it's called 'an observation'. I doubt anyone reads wangs or newsnut for any other reason than confirmation of their own prejudices. They are fucking atrocious blogs run by a bunch of semi literate wanks. And in Wangs case, a fucking trumpet on a titanic scale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) I doubt anyone reads wangs or newsnut for any other reason than confirmation of their own prejudices. They are fucking atrocious blogs run by a bunch of semi literate wanks. And in Wangs case, a fucking trumpet on a titanic scale. Which implies that you must read them Edited December 12, 2013 by I'm Brian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I doubt anyone reads wangs or newsnut for any other reason than confirmation of their own prejudices. They are fucking atrocious blogs run by a bunch of semi literate wanks. And in Wangs case, a fucking trumpet on a titanic scale. Erm, ok. What's that got to with anything? Wings is mental, but it's a good read now and then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingsoverperthshire Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Which implies that you must read them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I doubt anyone reads wangs or newsnut for any other reason than confirmation of their own prejudices. They are fucking atrocious blogs run by a bunch of semi literate wanks. And in Wangs case, a fucking trumpet on a titanic scale. I hear he's a great admirer of yours too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I remember opinion polls two months before the 2011 SE had Labour a very healthy 45% lead over the SNP on 30%. Two weeks prior the polling day virtually every poll was neck and neck. Result - Massive landslide to the SNP who where able to form a majority govt. in a parliamentary system specifically designed to prevent any party having a majority. Lies. Two weeks prior to polling day, every poll had the SNP in a commanding lead. In fact, every poll (there were 7) after 4th April had the SNP well in front (One actually by 18 percentage points) IPSOS-MORI was the first to report an SNP lead in the polls. In February 2011, 3 months before the vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davi3j Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) There's only one poll that counts an that will be on the 18th of September 2015. Make sure you post the findings. 2015??? Edited December 13, 2013 by vip3r 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingsoverperthshire Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 zhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25367929 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Andrew Neil - "What are the odds on us winning the third test?" Us??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Lies. Two weeks prior to polling day, every poll had the SNP in a commanding lead. In fact, every poll (there were 7) after 4th April had the SNP well in front (One actually by 18 percentage points) IPSOS-MORI was the first to report an SNP lead in the polls. In February 2011, 3 months before the vote. So in 3 months they went from behind to a landslide victory. Sort of proves his point tbh, in a more accurate kind of way. Really puts the current polls into context, wouldn't you say? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 So in 3 months they went from behind to a landslide victory. Sort of proves his point tbh, in a more accurate kind of way. Really puts the current polls into context, wouldn't you say? Not just behind, but a long way behind! Long enough for posters like hb and reynard to predict a big snp defeat. Furthermore as even hb has said, the final result is going to be much, much closer than the current polls. Even he agrees that the current figures are not representative. Makes you wonder why he keeps making such a big deal... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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