Mr Bairn Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 You're from Scotland and you're in England you might not feel foreign but you are. Just like how a French person would be foreign in Germany. What's it with people viewing the word foreign as a negative thing? It isn't. France and Germany are not part of the same sovereign state. It really is that simple. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yeah. Although I believe - as in the convention with most things - that the Northern Irish can choose to compete as part of team Ireland if they wish. Don't quote me on this but I seem to remember a bit of debate about Rory McIlroy, with golf joining the Olympics in 2016 It actually seems a bit wrong to call them team GB, but hey ho, I didn't come up with the colloquial name. Yeah I looked it up, supposedly a bit of unhappiness in NI over the fact it's just called Team GB. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yeah. Although I believe - as in the convention with most things - that the Northern Irish can choose to compete as part of team Ireland if they wish. Don't quote me on this but I seem to remember a bit of debate about Rory McIlroy, with golf joining the Olympics in 2016 It actually seems a bit wrong to call them team GB, but hey ho, I didn't come up with the colloquial name. Why the fcuk did you reply in that manner, ffs someone revoke his weekend pass. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Why the fcuk did you reply in that manner, ffs someone revoke his weekend pass.what specifically did I do wrong in the post you quoted? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 "Sickening" That's not very accepting of other people's identity Lex Bit nationalisty if anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 France and Germany are not part of the same sovereign state. It really is that simple. What difference does that actually make, they are different countries, what difference does it make if they are the 1 sovereign state or not? As the definition on sovereign state showed earlier it can still imply that a sovereign state can mean 4 countries in a political Union. Definition of a foreigner is someone being in a country that he wasn't born in. If anything the whole thing shows just how stupid it is having 4 countries governed under the same umbrella, this situation is unique in the world, every other country in the world governs itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 What difference does that actually make, they are different countries, what difference does it make if they are the 1 sovereign state or not? As the definition on sovereign state showed earlier it can still imply that a sovereign state can mean 4 countries in a political Union. Definition of a foreigner is someone being in a country that he wasn't born in. If anything the whole thing shows just how stupid it is having 4 countries governed under the same umbrella, this situation is unique in the world, every other country in the world governs itself. Sorry but suggesting that France-Germany have the same relationship as Scotland-England is completely wide of the mark. And also it's wrong to say that EVERY other country governs itself. Look at the likes of the Faroe Islands, they have a football team in UEFA etc but are still part of Denmark. There are lots of small islands in the Pacific Ocean that still send teams to the French cup, and I defy you to tell someone from Catalonia that it's not a country. I'm sorry but to suggest Scotland is the ONLY non-independent country in the world is a bit wide of the mark 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 France and Germany are not part of the same sovereign state. It really is that simple. Dont they share a border and a currency though? Cant you go from one to the other without a passport? Wonder how people who live along this border cope. Imagin living in one country and working in an other. It must be torture. What if you lived in France, but the nearest Tesco was in Germany. What would you do? It must be hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Sorry but suggesting that France-Germany have the same relationship as Scotland-England is completely wide of the mark. And also it's wrong to say that EVERY other country governs itself. Look at the likes of the Faroe Islands, they have a football team in UEFA etc but are still part of Denmark. There are lots of small islands in the Pacific Ocean that still send teams to the French cup, and I defy you to tell someone from Catalonia that it's not a country. I'm sorry but to suggest Scotland is the ONLY non-independent country in the world is a bit wide of the mark Great so we are comparing Scotland to tiny tiny islands here? What about a country of similar size, any of them non independent? Also if the people of Catalonia had a vote on it it would return near enough 100 percent YES..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Sorry but suggesting that France-Germany have the same relationship as Scotland-England is completely wide of the mark. And also it's wrong to say that EVERY other country governs itself. Look at the likes of the Faroe Islands, they have a football team in UEFA etc but are still part of Denmark. There are lots of small islands in the Pacific Ocean that still send teams to the French cup, and I defy you to tell someone from Catalonia that it's not a country. I'm sorry but to suggest Scotland is the ONLY non-independent country in the world is a bit wide of the mark Are you talking about colonies that are not independent? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 British first and foremost! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 What difference does that actually make, they are different countries, what difference does it make if they are the 1 sovereign state or not? As the definition on sovereign state showed earlier it can still imply that a sovereign state can mean 4 countries in a political Union. Definition of a foreigner is someone being in a country that he wasn't born in. If anything the whole thing shows just how stupid it is having 4 countries governed under the same umbrella, this situation is unique in the world, every other country in the world governs itself. Aye, you've just hit on why we are ''the most successful family of Nations in the World''. We're the only fkg family of Nations in the World. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 British first and foremost! Good for you. You'll always be British regardless of how the vote goes... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 British first and foremost! Hard hitting and insightful as ever. Vile ethnic accent fascist racist nationalist. Did I miss any? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Team GB is short for team Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Just as England is short for England and Wales cricket team? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 British first and foremost! Nice flag 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Great so we are comparing Scotland to tiny tiny islands here? What about a country of similar size, any of them non independent? There's a country far larger than Scotland which isn't an independent nation. I'll give you clue. You would say it's full of foreigners and I wouldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 There's a country far larger than Scotland which isn't an independent nation. I'll give you clue. You would say it's full of foreigners and I wouldn't. England is what 5 times bigger than Wales/NI/Scotland combined? The UK may aswell just be England for what little influence the other 3 have on anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 One of the first aims I'd like an iScotland to have would be to get past this horrendous middle Britain attitude towards "foreigners". Where not considering yourself the same nationality as someone else is offensive and sickening because that's what foreigners are. It's absolutely rank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 One of the first aims I'd like an iScotland to have would be to get past this horrendous middle Britain attitude towards "foreigners". Where not considering yourself the same nationality as someone else is offensive and sickening because that's what foreigners are. It's absolutely rank. Amen. It's treated as an insult on here which is absolutely absurd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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