HaikuHibee Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Which is a bloody awful alternative. Just google dollarization and read the negative effects. Why they ditched an icurrency in favour of CU is beyond me. Ecuador is pish. And Iceland is pish too lol. These BT slogans? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Reports that 1.7m tuned into the independence debate. How many switched off half-way through? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Very much this. With the material at hand, he should have obliterated Darling. Instead, he let himself get talked over and tried a few funnies. It's getting close to the crunch now and he should have been on the all out attack. Do I sense a tinge of disappointment in that post? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 From the Edinburgh news How did you intend to vote before the TV debate? Yes: 47.2% No: 34.6% Undecided: 17.8% How are you intending to vote now? Yes: 54.1% No: 40.2% Undecided: 5.1% That's 6.9% increase to No and 5.6% increase to Yes. Take out the remaining DKs and it is: No - 57.4% Yes - 42.6% My prediction has been 57-43 for No for months. That's not far out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 That's 6.9% increase to No and 5.6% increase to Yes. Take out the remaining DKs and it is: No - 57.4% Yes - 42.6% My prediction has been 57-43 for No for months. That's not far out. Are you getting your no and yes mixed up there??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Are you getting your no and yes mixed up there??? No - double-checked. Although DKs seem to be breaking marginally to No it is within the range of error that indicates that DKs are breaking equally. If Yes are to win the either have to get soft Nos to switch are get DKs to break unevenly in their favour. As it stands I can't see that happen unless there is some disaster for No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 No - double-checked. Although DKs seem to be breaking marginally to No it is within the range of error that indicates that DKs are breaking equally. If Yes are to win the either have to get soft Nos to switch are get DKs to break unevenly in their favour. As it stands I can't see that happen unless there is some disaster for No. triple check the original poll that was quoted from the edinburgh news 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 That's 6.9% increase to No and 5.6% increase to Yes. Take out the remaining DKs and it is: No - 57.4% Yes - 42.6% My prediction has been 57-43 for No for months. That's not far out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 John Curtice parses the numbers that (don't really) matter after the debate http://blog.whatscotlandthinks.org/2014/08/who-won-the-leaders-debate-icms-instant-poll/ Seems that 4% swing the clown collective were on about was total spin and in fact the effect of the debate was an even number of undecideds going for Yes as for No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 John Curtice parses the numbers that (don't really) matter after the debate http://blog.whatscotlandthinks.org/2014/08/who-won-the-leaders-debate-icms-instant-poll/ Seems that 4% swing the clown collective were on about was total spin and in fact the effect of the debate was an even number of undecideds going for Yes as for No You're on to them Bairn. Unless, you've mixed up the polls. Maybe that's it, clown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 From the Edinburgh news How did you intend to vote before the TV debate? Yes: 47.2% No: 34.6% Undecided: 17.8% How are you intending to vote now? Yes: 54.1% No: 40.2% Undecided: 5.1% That's 6.9% increase to No and 5.6% increase to Yes. Take out the remaining DKs and it is: No - 57.4% Yes - 42.6% My prediction has been 57-43 for No for months. That's not far out. Are you getting your no and yes mixed up there??? No - double-checked. Although DKs seem to be breaking marginally to No it is within the range of error that indicates that DKs are breaking equally. If Yes are to win the either have to get soft Nos to switch are get DKs to break unevenly in their favour. As it stands I can't see that happen unless there is some disaster for No. triple check the original poll that was quoted from the edinburgh news Oh dear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) triple check the original poll that was quoted from the edinburgh newsMy bad - I need my eyes tested. The problem of reading figures from a mobile and then trying to post. Ok the reverse is true - DKs breaking more to Yes but even in terms of margin of error.Any idea how this poll was carried out? Edited August 6, 2014 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Okay - hands up - I can't read on my mobile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 My bad - I need my eyes tested. The problem of reading figures from a mobile and then tfying to post. Ok the reverse is true - DKs breaking more to Yes but even in terms of margin of error. Any idea how this poll was carried out? You are forgiven. Hard work seeking evidence for a huge victory that never happened. ???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 You're on to them Bairn. Unless, you've mixed up the polls. Maybe that's it, clown. Tell me what post debate poll had a 4% swing to yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 My bad - I need my eyes tested. The problem of reading figures from a mobile and then trying to post. Ok the reverse is true - DKs breaking more to Yes but even in terms of margin of error. Any idea how this poll was carried out? ach ill let you off,ive no idea it was in the paper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Tell me what post debate poll had a 4% swing to yes. Tonight is the long awaited Scottish debate between Alex Salmond and Alistair Darling. STV released their latest Ipsos MORI at the start of the debate – topline figures there are YES 40%(+4), NO 54%(nc), don’t knows just 6%. Excluding don’t knows that works out at YES 42%(+2), NO 58%(-2). Certainly attempts to suggest that the poll showed support for Yes had increased from 43% to 47% seem to rest on comparing the post-debate figures in this poll (once Don’t Knows are excluded) with the equivalent figure in ICM’s last regular poll for Scotland on Sunday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 You are forgiven. Hard work seeking evidence for a huge victory that never happened. Just interpreting figures sad they come up - have done the same for previous polls irrespective of who they favour. The interesting thing is I can't remember seeing any poll where DKs have broken to one side or other more than the margin of error. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 First of all that's an IPSOS poll from BEFORE the debate, secondly said poll had a 2% swing, not a 4% swing And thirdly http://www.yesscotland.net/news/winning-where-it-matters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Just interpreting figures sad they come up - have done the same for previous polls irrespective of who they favour. The interesting thing is I can't remember seeing any poll where DKs have broken to one side or other more than the margin of error. In all fairness I think it will take a few days to get the full picture. I would certainly say that the attempts of some of the loon element on here and even the media to paint this as a no victory are pretty ridiculous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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