H_B Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I have read Jim Sillars quoting a couple of examples of elections where the grassroots campaign really took hold, and the pollsters got it wrong. Could this genuine change be happening 'under the radar'? No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 No Coverup starts here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I have read Jim Sillars quoting a couple of examples of elections where the grassroots campaign really took hold, and the pollsters got it wrong. Could this genuine change be happening 'under the radar'? It could happen. But the difference is big, keep convincing folk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I've just seen the Voting Guide which has come through the door. When both sides are given a single page to put their point across, why the f*** have the Yes campaign wasted 2/3rds of the page with a shitey photo though? The No thanks side is mainly complete whataboutery. Skint folk will probably buy the 'pay more for our mortgages, credit cards and loans' bit the most though. Is it absolutely certain that will happen though? No thanks say: "Voting for independence would be a huge leap into the unknown. If we leave then we lose the strength of the UK pound. This would mean we would pay more for our mortgages, credit cards and loans." I'd personally be willing to pay a bit more to live in a fairer society but I can understand why others wouldn't take that same view. Edited August 14, 2014 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I've just seen the Voting Guide which has come through the door. When both sides are given a single page to put their point across, why the f*** have the Yes campaign wasted 2/3rds of the page with a shitey photo though? The No thanks side is mainly complete whataboutery. Skint folk will probably buy the 'pay more for our mortgages, credit cards and loans' bit the most though. Why has either side got a page? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Why has either side got a page? To inform the non-P&Bers about the main arguments for and against. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Survation has done a poll of 1000 women on the independence question. http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Scottish-omnibus-August-Daily-Record.pdf Every single poll is near enough exactly the same? Ie the percentages of them all basically stuck. NO is always late 40s/50 percent. YES is always early/mid 30s. MAYBES are always early 20s. Pointless looking at them now you can guarantee the next one will be the same too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 To inform the non-P&Bers about the main arguments for and against. I thought it was a document to inform people how to go about voting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Every single poll is near enough exactly the same? Ie the percentages of them all basically stuck. NO is always late 40s/50 percent. YES is always early/mid 30s. MAYBES are always early 20s. Pointless looking at them now you can guarantee the next one will be the same too. Don't Stop Beleeevin' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Don't Stop Beleeevin' While you're singing, could you change the record? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 While you're singing, could you change the record? Would you prefer "I Have a Dream? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I thought it was a document to inform people how to go about voting. Not just it seems. The worrying this is that you know some people are going to choose which box they'll tick based entirely on those few sentences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Would you prefer "I Have a Dream? "Silence is golden" would be preferable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Every single poll is near enough exactly the same? Ie the percentages of them all basically stuck. NO is always late 40s/50 percent. YES is always early/mid 30s. MAYBES are always early 20s. Pointless looking at them now you can guarantee the next one will be the same too. The one on the 18th of next month will be the same too. Without the maybes of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The one on the 18th of next month will be the same too. Without the maybes of course. Perhaps your crystal ball will also tell you when the Maureens will pick up a point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Perhaps your crystal ball will also tell you when the Maureens will pick up a point? Coming from the guy who spent all last season telling us Killie will DEFINITELY finish above St Mirren? They didn't btw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Out of interest, have any charity bets been made between posters on here on the outcome? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Coming from the guy who spent all last season telling us Killie will DEFINITELY finish above St Mirren? They didn't btw. Living in the past eh? Typical Unionist? And did I not accept my humiliation with good grace and humour? That's the difference between a Yes voter and a No voter. You'd have probably ripped your St Mirren wallpaper to shreds and kicked your buddies lampshade around the bedroom were the positions reversed. We WILL finish above you this season though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Out of interest, have any charity bets been made between posters on here on the outcome? Was one between Reynard and a guy who doesn't post anymore. Dundee I think fan can't remember his name. My offer of odds of 5/1 on any charity bet I made last year on here still stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Out of interest, have any charity bets been made between posters on here on the outcome? KiwiFifer owes me a bottle of whisky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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