CGR Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Same rules apply do they? Do you have another course text to back this up? "sizeable number" Looks like he'll be scrambling about Bartels 1988; Lavrakas et al. 1991; Nadeau et al. 1994; and Mehrabian 1998 - the author doesn't explicitly explain the phenomenon of the 'bandwagon' effect. Even then he concedes that "group pressure and interpersonal conformity" may have a "much stronger effect" than the bandwagon theory. That's ignoring that the author states: "Voting for political parties or presidential candidates is less clearly linked to conformity than participation in national elections". And that's being kinder and forgetting that the author states at the beginning of the results section: "It is beyond the reach of the analysis, however, to assess how conformist voting behavior might have affected national politics in any country". Not only does the data not refer to referendums on independence, but it doesn't actually matter that fucking much to what the data actually applies to. WeeperDee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ed Miliband using the Scottish Independence referendum as an early General Election campaign tactic just proves how little they think of us down there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Can tell the NCC are rattled when they start throwing the social theory stuff out I just asked someone what NCC means after reading the last couple of pages on here and not knowing the reference. What a childish fucking moron you are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowden0 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Seems to be "focus on the Labour vote - get them out and get them voting No". Labour paying the price for talking the Scottish electorate for granted for years. Hell mend them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I just asked someone what NCC means after reading the last couple of pages on here and not knowing the reference. What a childish fucking moron you are. Nat Clown Collective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 You have no evidence at all to support this claim. Have you really never heard " what's the point in voting for them when they have no chance of winning"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Nat Clown Congress or African National Clowns 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Have you really never heard " what's the point in voting for them when they have no chance of winning"? Uh huh. In First Past the Post constituencies!! And in fact, that's the opposite claim anyway! Weeper Dee is trying to suggest people would say "Well, I wasn't going to vote Tory, but they look like being the winners nationally, so, you know what, I'll vote for them too" Edited September 4, 2014 by H_B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I just asked someone what NCC means after reading the last couple of pages on here and not knowing the reference. What a childish fucking moron you are. Every time the nodrones write NCC, I just think of this... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Nat Clown Collective. Aye I know know, it's utterly tragic banter m8. ETA: In fairness Casual Bystander, "nodrones". It's a shame when grown men discussing the political future of our nation have resorted to Hibs/Hearts yams and hobos level. Edited September 4, 2014 by Guest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I heard a great phrase from an American commentator who was looking upon the Scottish referendum issue. He did a pretty even job at pointing out the pros and cons on both sides, but did come out with the line of.. "The way the Better Together lead has dropped over the last couple of weeks they are at risk of coming 3rd in a two horse race" .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowden0 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Nat Clown Congress or African National Clowns Has BT promised to up your methadone in the event of a no vote as part of the new devo powers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Can tell the NCC are rattled when they start throwing the social theory stuff out What's the NCC rattled at? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Was reading an article from ultra unionist Ian Martin in the Telegraph about not worrying in London as there are thousands of BT activists in Scotland knocking doors etc. That's where the real battle is being won he declared. I then had to point out to him via Twitter that BT have no activists! If that's where the war is being won then the war is over! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Has BT promised to up your methadone in the event of a no vote as part of the new devo powers. I think you might have just suffered from an accidental self- inflicted whooshing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Looks like he'll be scrambling about Bartels 1988; Lavrakas et al. 1991; Nadeau et al. 1994; and Mehrabian 1998 - the author doesn't explicitly explain the phenomenon of the 'bandwagon' effect. Even then he concedes that "group pressure and interpersonal conformity" may have a "much stronger effect" than the bandwagon theory. That's ignoring that the author states: "Voting for political parties or presidential candidates is less clearly linked to conformity than participation in national elections". And that's being kinder and forgetting that the author states at the beginning of the results section: "It is beyond the reach of the analysis, however, to assess how conformist voting behavior might have affected national politics in any country". Not only does the data not refer to referendums on independence, but it doesn't actually matter that fucking much to what the data actually applies to. WeeperDee Textbook Weeper. Another for entry for the Anthony C Pick Hall of Shame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Aye I know know, it's utterly tragic banter m8. ETA: In fairness Casual Bystander, "nodrones". It's a shame when grown men discussing the political future of our nation have resorted to Hibs/Hearts yams and hobos level. You can add in Confi's Nawbags and Bitters Together. In all fairness though he's had similar (unprintable) plays on his username in return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 ETA: In fairness Casual Bystander, "nodrones". In my defence, I think nodrones is a rather apt description of those who swallow the political and religious mantras of their parents. Live in Glasgow and there is no paucity of such people. Bitter Together is also an entirely fair description of their campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 In my defence, I think nodrones is a rather apt description of those who swallow the political and religious mantras of their parents. It's so shit absolutely no one has repeated it. That says it all really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tio Pepe Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 From what I've read today it would appear that "Tell them the tories are out at the next election" is the first tactic. The focus on the Tories is horrendous. It's as if they are some form of terrible extremists rather than a right of centre mainstream party. It's designed to appeal to the base instincts of the more simple voters. What amazes me is that BT, who continue to bumble along ineffectively, don't shut Salmond up when he tells Milliband to get back into bed with the Tories. Is this the leader of the same SNP who only got some of their legislative programme through after the 2007 Holyrood election by cosying up to the Tories. Scottish politicians can be really poor. The media are no better. If I were a journalist I'd love the opportunity to focus on some of the nonsense being spoken by both sides. Most Scottish journalists are either partisan or too frightened to upset one side or the other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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