AUFC90 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) All over bar the shouting. All that's left in Yes Scotland is a handful of scheme goblins doing CPR on a long dead body You're even copying Reynard's shite patter now. Oh dear. Edited August 11, 2014 by AUFC90 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 They had no chance of beating No in a straight Yes/No referendum. Hence why Cameron owned that agreement. I made that very clear at the start, despite clown collective shrieks to the contrary, which have proven to be empty rumblings and embarrassingly inaccurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 It lost Yes the chance to escape from this with momentum and credibility. Yes had a chance of being 2nd in a 3 horse race that way. Rather than trailing in last in a 2 horse race. As it was, Salmond unwisely was outvoted internally in the SNP. And Cameron destroyed him in Edinburgh. Don't you think it would have left Scotland with momentum and credibility? Surely a NO vote will damage any credibility Scotland May have had, especially at Westminster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 They had no chance of beating No in a straight Yes/No referendum. Hence why Cameron owned that agreement. I made that very clear at the start, despite clown collective shrieks to the contrary, which have proven to be empty rumblings and embarrassingly inaccurate. Was that not also to make sure Scotland never got Devo Max? Kind of shows that more powers for Scotland is not what Westminster has in mind for Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 This. BTUKOKNOTHANKS have been trying to convince us for weeks now that we have no chance. We can't win. It can't be done. Regardless of what any poll says, the ONLY result that matters is the 18th September. Everything up until that point, and I include the shite I post on here, is just fluff. You can have as many shots on goal as you want, it only matters when it hits the back of the net. So not only do I think we can win, I am sure we will win. I look forward to the usual spineless wonders inserting smilies and chortling away. They're more than welcome to. I couldn't give a monkey's ballbag, tbf. Yes will win. Polls heavily and consistently favour No Polls are very occasionally wrong Therefore Yes will definitely win. Some flawless logic there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Polls heavily and consistently favour No Polls are very occasionally wrong Therefore Yes will definitely win. Some flawless logic there. Like I said, flower, the only result that counts is September 18th. Everything else, including the creepy H_B/ Reynard love in, is just fluff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Like I said, flower, the only result that counts is September 18th. Everything else, including the creepy H_B/ Reynard love in, is just fluff. This is something even Alistair Darling has said on numerous occasions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Was that not also to make sure Scotland never got Devo Max? Kind of shows that more powers for Scotland is not what Westminster has in mind for Scotland. No. It was entirely to shaft Salmond. Which Cameron did beautifully. They were never about to allow the likes of Salmond the chance to define anything other than what he reckoned independence should look like, knowing full well he would make a mess of it. Salmond wont be around to help define whatever it is that "devo max" is anyway. And going by past huffs, the SNP are likely to sit on the sidelines and seethe away while its defined for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Don't you think it would have left Scotland with momentum and credibility? Surely a NO vote will damage any credibility Scotland May have had, especially at Westminster. We will see what credibility the SNP are left with nce this is done. They will fight like ferrets in a sack after this regardless for a spell. A damaged leader if he can stay on in that role and a completely wasted parliamentary term which was dominated by their monomania.Lots of folk couldnt stomach allowing the Labour clowns get a shot in charge of the wrecking ball and decided to plump for the SNP where Holyrood was concerned. Will be interesting to see if that carries on. Most of the by elections to Holyrood suggests not.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 We will see what credibility the SNP are left with nce this is done. They will fight like ferrets in a sack after this regardless for a spell. A damaged leader if he can stay on in that role and a completely wasted parliamentary term which was dominated by their monomania.Lots of folk couldnt stomach allowing the Labour clowns get a shot in charge of the wrecking ball and decided to plump for the SNP where Holyrood was concerned. Will be interesting to see if that carries on. Most of the by elections to Holyrood suggests not.. You seem to be jizzing in your boxers about the thought of Labour taking over from the SNP up here, are you right in the head? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 You seem to be jizzing in your boxers about the thought of Labour taking over from the SNP up here, are you right in the head? You have severe difficulties with interpretation. That's become fairly apparent over recent months. A shame really 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 No. It was entirely to shaft Salmond. Which Cameron did beautifully. They were never about to allow the likes of Salmond the chance to define anything other than what he reckoned independence should look like, knowing full well he would make a mess of it. Salmond wont be around to help define whatever it is that "devo max" is anyway. And going by past huffs, the SNP are likely to sit on the sidelines and seethe away while its defined for them. Thanks Reytard. Nice of you to admit that Cameron shafted Scotland by taking out Devo max. By shafting Salmond, he also shafted any other party in Scotland ever having Devo max also. So he SHAFTED Scotland. Proud of you Reytard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 You have severe difficulties with interpretation. That's become fairly apparent over recent months. A shame really I think my interpretation of that is fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks Reytard. Nice of you to admit that Cameron shafted Scotland by taking out Devo max. By shafting Salmond, he also shafted any other party in Scotland ever having Devo max also. So he SHAFTED Scotland. Proud of you Reytard. Another one that cant read (or spell ) I clearly stated he shafted Salmonds ambitions. Salmond isn't Scotland as far as I'm aware. But tremendous effort, well done. Devo max is yet to be defined. Its not going to be Salmond doing it either which is good news all round especially after the horses arse of a job he's made attempting to define independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I think my interpretation of that is fine. I'm sure you do. But you're a bit thick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Another one that cant read (or spell ) I clearly stated he shafted Salmonds ambitions. Salmond isn't Scotland as far as I'm aware. But tremendous effort, well done. Devo max is yet to be defined. Its not going to be Salmond doing it either which is good news all round especially after the horses arse of a job he's made attempting to define independence. Devo max is not going to happen. Even JoLo when interviewed about Labour plans for Devo max said " we don't want to give Alex Salmond the powers to ". She in that one utterance admitted that any Scottish party at Holyrood would also not have the powers to. Wee Ruthies line in the sand will be a lot closer to what we end up with. Reytard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Here's a link to the YouGov poll tables http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/n9xblv6gc0/Sun_Results_Scottish_Independence_140807.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I'm sure you do. But you're a bit thick. Obviously in your part of Ayr running away equates to intelligence, where I'm from it's the sign of a shitebag. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Here's a link to the YouGov poll tables http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/n9xblv6gc0/Sun_Results_Scottish_Independence_140807.pdf What do they mean by newspaper type? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Closing down my Betfair account so stuck what was left on YES. £29.57 is no too bad if YES wins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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