mammy Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 There will be a shake-up of all the current political parties after indy and quite probably the creation of others. There is plenty scope for a proper socialist party in Scotland. I have directly asked several supporters of that club to give me an explanation of why they are voting no and am still waiting on responce. I also posted an open letter on their sub-forum, a few months ago, inviting any Rangers fan to present ''a reasoned and logical explanation of why we should vote no''. I didn't get one. That said, I do know and know of Rangers fans, who will be voting Yes but it would seem correct to believe the majority will be voting no. If there is a no vote, I will take every opportunity to remind and shame every no voter I know, as the consequences of their action/inaction begin to bite. Really ? What if something good happens, like a fall in unemployment for example, in what way would remind and shame the no voter then ? Or would it just be the bad stuff you would remind and shame ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 There will be a shake-up of all the current political parties after indy and quite probably the creation of others. There is plenty scope for a proper socialist party in Scotland. Very presumptive - Ireland being a prime example of what I am concerned about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Really ? What if something good happens, like a fall in unemployment for example, in what way would remind and shame the no voter then ? Or would it just be the bad stuff you would remind and shame ? In the event of a No vote, this country would only go one way. Down the shitter. And it would be the right of every Yes voter to point the finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 And I don't see any reawakening of working class politics with a Yes vote either. Which party in iScotland is going to deliver this? I think the point is that in an iScotland there won't be several tens of millions of English votes to render the Scottish result practically useless. The main parties in Scotland will have totally different priorities when the umbilical cord with Westminster is severed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Really ? What if something good happens, like a fall in unemployment for example, in what way would remind and shame the no voter then ? Or would it just be the bad stuff you would remind and shame ? Whatever happens, there will be good and bad, rises/falls in unemployment etc. I'm talking of all the promises that will be broken, the very real likelihood of leaving the EU, the continued erosion of our welfare system and continued waste of resources on nuclear weapons and military involvement in foreign affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Really ? What if something good happens, like a fall in unemployment for example, in what way would remind and shame the no voter then ? Or would it just be the bad stuff you would remind and shame ? You haven't heard? Only good things will happen after a yes. Milk and honey and jam tomorrow from the clown collective. If it's a no then a big bad man will eat your jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 You MUST post a photograph of this if the result is No. It'll outdo that Bankies hand tat. He could always just copy said Bankies fan and just draw the thing on himself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 You haven't heard? Only good things will happen after a yes. Milk and honey and jam tomorrow from the clown collective. If it's a no then a big bad man will eat your jam. H_B has not taught you well clearly, you are shite at trying to be him, give it a rest. Literally nobody has said it'll be like that either from the Clown Collective as you put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm going to get #No tattoed on my perineum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm going to get #No tattoed on my perineum. #lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 You haven't heard? Only good things will happen after a yes. Milk and honey and jam tomorrow from the clown collective. If it's a no then a big bad man will eat your jam. I thought you said you were voting Yes? Trying too hard to be like Libby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 I thought you said you were voting Yes? Trying too hard to be like Libby? I'm pretty confused atm tbh. I dunno. I prefer being a United Kingdom but I think maybe lifestyle might be better if we were independent? tbh I have no idea and will just vote on whatever box my heart guides me to on the morning of the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm pretty confused atm tbh. I dunno. I prefer being a United Kingdom but I think maybe lifestyle might be better if we were independent? tbh I have no idea and will just vote on whatever box my heart guides me to on the morning of the vote. Translation: "I'm a wum". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Translation: "I'm a wum". ^^^ Coming from the guy that's every bit as confused as I am. Surprised that you've decided to turn on me though. That's emphasising the turn, not the on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Translation: "I'm a wum". I don't know how you've managed to extrapolate the w,u and m from attention seeking fanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm pretty confused atm tbh. No shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 ^^^ Coming from the guy that's every bit as confused as I am. Surprised that you've decided to turn on me though. That's emphasising the turn, not the on I'm not confused at all. I have known exactly what I am doing (and why) for months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I thought you said you were voting Yes? Trying too hard to be like Libby? He says he is thinking on voting YES simply to cover his bases. He knows that when YES win, he will not be able to breath under the weight of his humiliation, so has got his " out plan" in early. Same with Libby. Who could fall for his " and thats why I'm voting YES" pish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandGer Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 And I don't see any reawakening of working class politics with a Yes vote either. Which party in iScotland is going to deliver this? I disagree insofar as the centre of gravity in the Scottish party system is clearly on the centre-left. The dynamic, thereby, is to pull and push the way in which politics is framed, interpreted, and articulated toward the left of the spectrum. I would suggest this would lead to a soft social-democratic consensus. The alternative, for me, is quite the contrast. The very idea that, for anyone concerned with centre-left politics, that Labour in the UK have the political capital or will to move anywhere close to the centre-left, never mind achieve a shift in the centre of gravity, is somewhere close to fantasy. Which one party will deliver? It's a bit of a redundant and silly question because I would suggest the political operating environment is of greater importance than any one particular party ( In 21st Century Scotland? A vanguard party, really? ) I'm also well aware that in an independent Scotland there remain a range of incentives for the rise of the centre-right. I would suggest, well, if that's what people vote for, then that's the debate to be had. I would rather disagree with a government in which I had an actual say over an election in which a local representative enjoyed the priviliges of sitting on green leather of the opposition back-bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I would probably blame the post war baby boomer generation for living up to their reputation as selfish b*****ds. There will be exceptions as some will vote yes (my folks included) but I reckon by and large they will be the block vote for No. After that I would just have to learn to accept that we are really just a region of greater Englandshire. I might even start voting Tory as it really would be daft to have them govern us with next to no representation in Scotland.....(like you know right fucking now!! ) Thankfully this will be avoided. Yes will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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