Casual Bystander Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 This is the man that was the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the UK careered into a financial crisis, compounded by a Prime Minister in Brown that had laid the groundwork for the monumental collapse. Just how can anyone believe a single word either of these men say about the future of independent Scottish finances when they were so recklessly culpable for the mess that this country found itself in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Indeed. He's a Scots lefty so its to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 butbutbut... they're both Scottish. This is what you get when Scottish people are in charge of things. Never, ever trust any Scotsman to look after anything. Every one of us is incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yes these two points make a really convincing argument for the No camp. We really are truly Better Together. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Indeed. He's a Scots lefty so its to be expected. If you genuinely think Labour is "left" then you are still living in the 70's. In fact you could argue some policies put into place by the Conservatives are more "left wing" than the Labour ones put forward. However it is nice to see you agree that neither Brown nor Darling can be trusted, and considering their relevant influence on the BT campaign, it just goes to show you cannot trust BT either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joozy Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yeah, imagine making stuff up about finances. You wouldn't catch the yes campaign spouting bullshit figures they've pulled from thin air....oh wait... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11026966/Eye-catching-Alex-Salmond-independence-claim-was-based-on-no-economic-modelling.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I wouldn't trust Alistair Darling to go to the shops for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yeah, imagine making stuff up about finances. You wouldn't catch the yes campaign spouting bullshit figures they've pulled from thin air....oh wait... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11026966/Eye-catching-Alex-Salmond-independence-claim-was-based-on-no-economic-modelling.html So is that you defending Darling and Brown? It's funny how the Torygraph is happy to trump up that fluff piece while ignoring the massive errors that the BT campaign have made; from misrepresenting the costs of setting up a full Scottish government to the claim that every Scot would be £1400 better of if they voted No. Both of those debunked within minutes of their publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 If you genuinely think Labour is "left" then you are still living in the 70's. In fact you could argue some policies put into place by the Conservatives are more "left wing" than the Labour ones put forward. However it is nice to see you agree that neither Brown nor Darling can be trusted, and considering their relevant influence on the BT campaign, it just goes to show you cannot trust BT either. Miliband is far more left wing than Salmond is. I dont trust them. I dont trust "BT" either. But thanks for your concern. Brown has influence in the BT campaign? Thankfully that one eyed fucktard has been shunned by virtually everyone in politics these days after his catastrophic effort in government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So is that you defending Darling and Brown? It's funny how the Torygraph is happy to trump up that fluff piece while ignoring the massive errors that the BT campaign have made; from misrepresenting the costs of setting up a full Scottish government to the claim that every Scot would be £1400 better of if they voted No. Both of those debunked within minutes of their publication. They are a shower of c***s. But it hasn't made the slightest bit of difference when up against a yes campaign that has made them look almost competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Miliband is far more left wing than Salmond is. Difficult one to call to be honest, after all Miliband doesn't have the flexibility to be who he would like to be as he has public opinion on one side and the unions on the other. Rock and a hard place as it were. Salmond I see more as a pragmatist so some of the policies he introduced in the first SNP term needed the support of the Conservatives (against the Lib/Lab pact) and thus did have the tinge of blue to them. However this is not about Miliband or Salmond, this is about Labour and their position on the political spectrum. Post Kinnock they swung massively to the centre and still hold that position (even after Blair) not having the courage to represent the very people who elected them. Brown has influence in the BT campaign? Thankfully that one eyed fucktard has been shunned by virtually everyone in politics these days after his catastrophic effort in government. There was considerable support for him to get involved in BT while Darling floundered, he refused (presumably still stinging from the sentiment that was whipped up by the London centric press when PM) but is more than willing to campaign on their behalf. For example his speech on pensions.. http://bettertogether.net/blog/entry/being-part-of-the-uk-secures-the-pensions-of-scots-gordon-brown ..which is lovely when you consider the affect his actions had on the pensions of nearly every single Briton when in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Brown has influence in the BT campaign? Thankfully that one eyed fucktard has been shunned by virtually everyone in politics these days after his catastrophic effort in government. Hey you.... Leave Cyclops alone.... Not everyone deficient in the eye dept. to the tune of 1 is a fucktard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 They are a shower of c***s. At least we agree on that matter. But it hasn't made the slightest bit of difference when up against a yes campaign that has made them look almost competent. BT have simply spread lies and fearmongering. At no point has it looked competent, only bitter and angry. The politics of negativity have come entirely from Westminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 At least we agree on that matter. BT have simply spread lies and fearmongering. At no point has it looked competent, only bitter and angry. The politics of negativity have come entirely from Westminster. We do agree on that. BT are an irrelevance, I have taken nothing to do with them whatsoever. Who the f**k is Blair McDougall anyway? But as mentioned already, they didn't actually have to be any good as no was going to win regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hey you.... Leave Cyclops alone.... Not everyone deficient in the eye dept. to the tune of 1 is a fucktard. Thats the least of Browns problems to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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