BerwickMad Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Drunken rants on the Internet. #topbantz I never said they would ditch him, I said he would get in on the list, as they aren't going to depose a standing MSP just to accommodate him. Why not? It will be a new parliament and there will be 60 odd MPs from Westminster whom most of which you would think would want a seat. They won't have actually lost their seat at an election. Parties are going to pick their most talented people to stand as new MPs in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 "following him around" You do know he is pitching up in towns on a soapbox shouting over a megaphone? This may come as a shock to you, but you'll have Yes supporters everywhere within Scotland, they don't need to be bused up from England This wasn't spontaneous heckling. Yes campaigners were posting details of when and where Murphy was going be and asking Yes supporters to come and heckle the guy. Did you think people just casually walked around with Yes banners and megaphones?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Why not? It will be a new parliament and there will be 60 odd MPs from Westminster whom most of which you would think would want a seat. They won't have actually lost their seat at an election. Parties are going to pick their most talented people to stand as new MPs in Scotland. Some of them might do a George Galloway, find a safe Labour seat in England or Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Why not? It will be a new parliament and there will be 60 odd MPs from Westminster whom most of which you would think would want a seat. They won't have actually lost their seat at an election. Parties are going to pick their most talented people to stand as new MPs in Scotland. Because you will get an awful lot of very annoyed MSPs who have done nothing wrong in order to be deselected, then you have the situation of the constituency where they were elected having a new MSP foisted upon them. You seriously think that they will all just traipse back from Westminster and immediately expect to be given seats to fight and all the winning MSPs chucked out? Now the list, that is a different matter, that doesn't have the one to one correlation to the electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 This wasn't spontaneous heckling. Yes campaigners were posting details of when and where Murphy was going be and asking Yes supporters to come and heckle the guy. Did you think people just casually walked around with Yes banners and megaphones?.... Murphy has been posting that information himself If you're going to stand in the middle of the city/town centre, you'll attract attention. You'll have lots of local yes supporters who have every right to shout him down as he does to stand and preach to people in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 This wasn't spontaneous heckling. Yes campaigners were posting details of when and where Murphy was going be and asking Yes supporters to come and heckle the guy. Did you think people just casually walked around with Yes banners and megaphones?.... In Dundee, that's right. Murphy pitched next to yes stall. He had it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Murphy has been posting that information himself If you're going to stand in the middle of the city/town centre, you'll attract attention. You'll have lots of local yes supporters who have every right to shout him down as he does to stand and preach to people in public. Yes, he has been posting that information but it doesn't alter the fact Yes campaigners were posting the info also and asking people to come along and heckle him. You seem to think it was random passers-by who were shouting him down. It wasn't. It was organised bullying. Hey, I'm not denying the Yes supporters have a right to express their opinion but its the way they chose to express that opinion which is disgraceful. Men shouldn't be intimidating female pensioners, nor should they be threatening to "knock out" an English voter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yes, he has been posting that information but it doesn't alter the fact Yes campaigners were posting the info also and asking people to come along and heckle him. You seem to think it was random passers-by who were shouting him down. It wasn't. It was organised bullying. Hey, I'm not denying the Yes supporters have a right to express their opinion but its the way they chose to express that opinion which is disgraceful. Men shouldn't be intimidating female pensioners, nor should they be threatening to "knock out" an English voter. What...you mean like this http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/scottish-independence-campaigner-80-attacked-1-3077094 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yes, he has been posting that information but it doesn't alter the fact Yes campaigners were posting the info also and asking people to come along and heckle him. You seem to think it was random passers-by who were shouting him down. It wasn't. It was organised bullying. Hey, I'm not denying the Yes supporters have a right to express their opinion but its the way they chose to express that opinion which is disgraceful. Men shouldn't be intimidating female pensioners, nor should they be threatening to "knock out" an English voter. Straw clutching. And let's not forget it was Jim party who declared this as a "war" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yes, he has been posting that information but it doesn't alter the fact Yes campaigners were posting the info also and asking people to come along and heckle him. You seem to think it was random passers-by who were shouting him down. It wasn't. It was organised bullying. Hey, I'm not denying the Yes supporters have a right to express their opinion but its the way they chose to express that opinion which is disgraceful. Men shouldn't be intimidating female pensioners, nor should they be threatening to "knock out" an English voter. A photographer. Taking photos of yes folk. Murphy is lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Because you will get an awful lot of very annoyed MSPs who have done nothing wrong in order to be deselected, then you have the situation of the constituency where they were elected having a new MSP foisted upon them. You seriously think that they will all just traipse back from Westminster and immediately expect to be given seats to fight and all the winning MSPs chucked out? Now the list, that is a different matter, that doesn't have the one to one correlation to the electorate. It will be a new parliament surely. Why should a Westminster MP lose their job when they've never lost an election. The same with the MSP to be fair. In Berwick they had 4 prospective candidates for the Tories going up against each other to be the candidate. Could easily see that happening in Scottish constituencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It will be a new parliament surely. Why should a Westminster MP lose their job when they've never lost an election. The same with the MSP to be fair. In Berwick they had 4 prospective candidates for the Tories going up against each other to be the candidate. Could easily see that happening in Scottish constituencies. Because it's a new system. the people have voted for it. they won't be entitled to slot right in. they'll need to stand and be elected, and I think a lot of them would be in for a big shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It will be a new parliament surely. Why should a Westminster MP lose their job when they've never lost an election. The same with the MSP to be fair. In Berwick they had 4 prospective candidates for the Tories going up against each other to be the candidate. Could easily see that happening in Scottish constituencies. I disagree and if you think that people like having those who are going to lose their Westminster seat after independence foisted upon them then you really don't understand the connection between the electorate and the politician they elect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/scottish-independence-campaigner-80-attacked-1-3077094 Aye, aye, Murphy may have had eggs thrown at him, this old lad was attacked by nodrone... A PRO-INDEPENDENCE campaigner has been assaulted on Edinburgh’s Royal Mile by a woman who was outraged at his Yes placard. • Police examine CCTV footage to catch elderly man’s attacker. • ‘Monstrous woman’ broke campaigner’s wrist by pushing him to the ground. In what are believed to have been the first physical blows of the debate on Scotland’s future, frail nationalist campaigner James McMillan, 80, was sent spinning to the ground by the woman – after she wrestled a banner supporting a Yes vote from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Mints Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The egg-thrower was wearing a ear piece. Rumours flying around that this was a deliberate ploy by one of Jim's backroom team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 The egg-thrower was wearing a ear piece. Rumours flying around that this was a deliberate ploy by one of Jim's backroom team. That would be hilarious. Get him caught and up on charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I don't believe the egg throwing grassy knoll theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Mints Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 That would be hilarious. Get him caught and up on charges. I'm rubbish at linking stuff but Yes Dunblane on facebook or Caledonia_1 on twitter have photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scothmist Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The egg-thrower was wearing a ear piece. Rumours flying around that this was a deliberate ploy by one of Jim's backroom team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Straw clutching. And let's not forget it was Jim party who declared this as a "war" It's not "straw clutching" though. Do you not accept the way Yes supporters have behaved is an own goal for Yes? As for "Jim's party", I'm not defending his opinions, I'm defending his right to express those opinions without being intimidated. The egg-thrower was wearing a ear piece. No he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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