Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Remember, though, this isn't scaremongering. They're simply warning of the dangers of a Labour government and it would be dishonest not to do so. I bet they signed up to the petition to support Jeremy Clarkson as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11507400/SNP-backed-Labour-government-would-leave-UK-looking-like-pre-crisis-Spain-says-US-fund-manager-BlackRock.html Vote NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Any idea how many seats Plaid and Green are expected to win? The odds on the Greens winning Bristol West have been slashed to 3/1. It's a university seat with over 80,000 constituents, and the incumbent is a Lib Dem. But two is the absolute most they'll have. Plaid are similarly going nowhere. Look at voters in Wales being treated with utter contempt by the Westminster parties and still cheerfully voting for the same rosettes that their dads did and see what Scotland has avoided. Incidentally, wasn't jmothecat a student until recently? Someone whose balls hadn't dropped until after Blair was in charge is definitely the right person to scold the Labour Party's remaining progressives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sounds more like it's you who doesn't want any kind of working compromise with the left wing of your own party, or is the wisdom of how to make the country better exclusive to the Blairites? We constantly compromise with the left, but this is a group who are demanding that there be no cuts whatsoever. Labour need to make budgets that are left-wing but palatable to the electorate and are responsible. It requires compromise from everyone but the far leftists are constantly unwilling to concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 John McDonnell (one of the far leftist nutters in the Labour Party who is inexplicably GU Labour Club's honorary chair) has written a letter saying he and '30 to 40' (optimistic I would say) Labour MPs would vote against any budget involving cuts. Whilst I'm assuming this is posturing to get leftist concessions it is irritating. Considering how close this is all looking to be, and how small the margins between passing these sorts of claims can be damaging. When it comes down to it the prospect of a Miliband Labour budget or the threat of a Tory one I doubt they would vote against it. Irritating nonetheless. He was interviewed on LBC yesterday. When asked if he wished Labour were more like the SNP, he said no as he believed SNP were right wing in government, but pretending to be left wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The odds on the Greens winning Bristol West have been slashed to 3/1. It's a university seat with over 80,000 constituents, and the incumbent is a Lib Dem. But two is the absolute most they'll have. Plaid are similarly going nowhere. Look at voters in Wales being treated with utter contempt by the Westminster parties and still cheerfully voting for the same rosettes that their dads did and see what Scotland has avoided. Incidentally, wasn't jmothecat a student until recently? Someone whose balls hadn't dropped until after Blair was in charge is definitely the right person to scold the Labour Party's remaining progressives. Being 25 makes my opinions invalid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Being 25 makes my opinions invalid? U are only 25 and you are voting Labour. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyAffro Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Not having a fucking clue what the Labour party actually are supposed to be and what they stand for and slating those that do for being too left wing does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Being 25 makes my opinions invalid? If it's any consolation, I placed you as about 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 If it's any consolation, I placed you as about 65. Would have thought older. WW2 veteran perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 It's the SNP fault they don't have the power to nationalise the railways in Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sheffield Hallam maybe going to Labour? Can't see it, would be fantastic though. Would still expect Clegg to win by an OK amount, nice to see him sweat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Not having a fucking clue what the Labour party actually are supposed to be and what they stand for and slating those that do for being too left wing does that.There are different wings of nearly every party. Parties also have to change direction from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 It's the SNP fault they don't have the power to nationalise the railways in Scotland ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1427885675.269993.jpg There is no lie that they won't tell to further their flagging cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sheffield Hallam maybe going to Labour? Can't see it, would be fantastic though. Would still expect Clegg to win by an OK amount, nice to see him sweat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyAffro Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 There are different wings of nearly every party. Parties also have to change direction from time to time. If they change direction THEY'RE NOT THE SAME FUCKING PARTY. If 'Labour' start espousing right-wing or centre-right views they are not Labour anymore. Which they've been doing since 1994. Imbeciles like jmothecat are not Labour voters or activists, they have no clue what Labour are supposed to stand for and actively rail against those very values their party is supposed to represent. Funny that you have identified yourself as a wee Labour fanboy though, your rage makes a lot of sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/04/the-liberal-democrat-battleground/ Latest Ashcroft polls from Lib Dem marginals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The Labour 2% lead also takes account of the 'local candidate recognition' factor for Clegg, without it Ashcroft is showing Labour 10% ahead. I'd love to see Clegg binned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyAffro Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I think its quite clear if Labour were still actually Labour then jmothecat would never have voted for them in his life and would utterly hate them. The rest of us wouldn't though, and they might stand a chance of winning a majority at WM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 If they change direction THEY'RE NOT THE SAME FUCKING PARTY. If 'Labour' start espousing right-wing or centre-right views they are not Labour anymore. Which they've been doing since 1994. Imbeciles like jmothecat are not Labour voters or activists, they have no clue what Labour are supposed to stand for and actively rail against those very values their party is supposed to represent. Funny that you have identified yourself as a wee Labour fanboy though, your rage makes a lot of sense now. At least he can have a reasoned debate and not post childish rants like yourself. Only one showing rage is you. Settle down petal. I'll love the rage on here if Red Ed does indeed get the keys to number 10. The nats on here will be gutted their man Cameron didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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