Gordopolis Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I only saw the 2nd half but I thought Scotland played some good technical football. Naismith and Maloney were very skillful at keeping the ball. Whittaker and Robertson were excellent in support going forward and Brown and Mulgrew were in charge of the midfield. Ireland played plenty of long ball stuff and were sluggish and uncreative after the knockdowns from Walters and Long. One criticism of Scotland is that we didn't have bodies in the box when crosses were played in and when Ireland were deep there wasn't much craft in breaking them down but all in all we made them look very average which is what they are. Totally agree. Hopefully that's just the final piece of Strachan's jigsaw. He seems to be having no luck in finding a regular goalscorer though - not necessarily a great player, just a guy who will bag us roughly 1 in 2 . Steven Fletcher is a gifted player, but he's not going to be a regular source of goals for us. Naismith will chip in maybe 1 in 5 games, but his main contribution is in disrupting the defence rather than applying the finishing touch. Martin looks like a square peg in a round hole from what I've seen. McCormack, Rhodes, Griffiths are drifting out of the international reckoning. Here's hoping Stevie May might be the right fit for us up front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I was knackered after watching that on Friday. Superb three points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Rice Half Chips Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Half Rice Half Chips isn't doing a great job of covering his absolute seethe at Friday's result. I support Scotland first, Ireland second. My wish is for both countries to qualify from the group if possible. But I cannot and will not support those who hide behind "football rivalry" in order to spout their (scarcely-concealed at the best of times) anti-Irish bigotry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Whilst we're still on the subject; South Ireland are fucking waash. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 This thread has descended into a swamp of fetid ball-sweat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Totally agree. Hopefully that's just the final piece of Strachan's jigsaw. He seems to be having no luck in finding a regular goalscorer though - not necessarily a great player, just a guy who will bag us roughly 1 in 2 . Steven Fletcher is a gifted player, but he's not going to be a regular source of goals for us. Naismith will chip in maybe 1 in 5 games, but his main contribution is in disrupting the defence rather than applying the finishing touch. Martin looks like a square peg in a round hole from what I've seen. McCormack, Rhodes, Griffiths are drifting out of the international reckoning. Here's hoping Stevie May might be the right fit for us up front. Maybe Steve May is one for the future. There's not really that sort of player that stands out. I think at this level Naismith and Fletcher are the best forward players and they tend to drop deeper than a classic goal poacher, I think that sort of player is rare in todays game goals are spread around the team more. Martin doesn't look terribly mobile which is part of the problem but it's just too early to judge I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Maybe Steve May is one for the future. There's not really that sort of player that stands out. I think at this level Naismith and Fletcher are the best forward players and they tend to drop deeper than a classic goal poacher, I think that sort of player is rare in todays game goals are spread around the team more. Martin doesn't look terribly mobile which is part of the problem but it's just too early to judge I think. Agree re the typical striker these days, but our guys just aren't producing the goals like those all-round forwards from other national teams. Could be worse though, we could be Wales, who really don't have a striker of any repute to call upon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Prince Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Agree re the typical striker these days, but our guys just aren't producing the goals like those all-round forwards from other national teams. Could be worse though, we could be Wales, who really don't have a striker of any repute to call upon. Aye but they've got Bale who can produce something out of nothing. We don't have a luxury like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 But I cannot and will not support those who hide behind "football rivalry" in order to spout their (scarcely-concealed at the best of times) anti-Irish bigotry. See this pish !! this pish really rips my knitting !! I couldn't give a f'ck about Ireland, I bear them no grudge, no f'ck what-so-ever but I have criticized McCarthy in the past on here for deciding not to play for Scotland - if he'd picked Wales I'd still have criticized him and no doubt I'd have been critisized in return for doing so ... but because it's Ireland some fandan just has to roll up and bleat about anti-Irish bigotry. C*nts ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Rice Half Chips Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) See this pish !! this pish really rips my knitting !! I couldn't give a f'ck about Ireland, I bear them no grudge, no f'ck what-so-ever but I have criticized McCarthy in the past on here for deciding not to play for Scotland - if he'd picked Wales I'd still have criticized him and no doubt I'd have been critisized in return for doing so ... but because it's Ireland some fandan just has to roll up and bleat about anti-Irish bigotry. C*nts ! You're not getting my point. in my opinion, the booing of McGeady (and McCarthy if he was playing) was fair-game (as long as it didn't descend into "ya fen1an b*****d" territory). What I was referring to was Irish fans being called "fen1an b*****ds", "dirty ta1g b*****ds" and having the famine song sung at them. That has nothing to do with McCarthy/McGeady. Edited November 17, 2014 by Half Rice Half Chips 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 You're not getting my point. in my opinion, the booing of McGeady (and McCarthy if he was playing) was fair-game (as long as it didn't descend into "ya fen1an b*****d" territory). What I was referring to was Irish fans being called "fen1an b*****ds", "dirty ta1g b*****ds" and having the famine song sung at them. That has nothing to do with McCarthy/McGeady. Yep, and the majority of folk on here or at CP on Friday hate those c***s just as much as the Scottish plastics wearing their Celtic scarves in the home end. They're essentially the same people, it's a toss of the coin which 'side' they happen to be on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 You're not getting my point. in my opinion, the booing of McGeady (and McCarthy if he was playing) was fair-game (as long as it didn't descend into "ya fen1an b*****d" territory). What I was referring to was Irish fans being called "fen1an b*****ds", "dirty ta1g b*****ds" and having the famine song sung at them. That has nothing to do with McCarthy/McGeady. In that case I apologize - I certainly didn't get your point. Having explained your point though you're obviously touching on what a very large chunk of "football rivalry" in Scotland is built on - whilst I don't give a f'ck about Ireland bizarrely large swathes of Scots born folk somehow do !! And, of course, the utterly pointless country to the North of it as well !! There are better countries to spend your life immersed in squabbling over but it's a big part of many Scots folks lives !! All that is hardly Rocket Surgery of course, no one on here really needs it explained to them - were you expecting anything different ? At the UEFA Cup Final at Hampden a few years ago a bunch of fans behind me started chanting sectarian pish !! If it can happen there I certainly wouldn't have been surprised to hear it at Celtic park the other night ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 In that case I apologize - I certainly didn't get your point. Having explained your point though you're obviously touching on what a very large chunk of "football rivalry" in Scotland is built on - whilst I don't give a f'ck about Ireland bizarrely large swathes of Scots born folk somehow do !! And, of course, the utterly pointless country to the North of it as well !! There are better countries to spend your life immersed in squabbling over but it's a big part of many Scots folks lives !! All that is hardly Rocket Surgery of course, no one on here really needs it explained to them - were you expecting anything different ? At the UEFA Cup Final at Hampden a few years ago a bunch of fans behind me started chanting sectarian pish !! If it can happen there I certainly wouldn't have been surprised to hear it at Celtic park the other night ! What has Iceland ever done to you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeNewcomer Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The Fianna are as much part of Scottish mythology as they are Irish. The links between Scotland and Ireland go back centuries with an almost constant stream of people back and forth. It's ridiculous that to some people the age old relationship between the two places is seen almost entirely through the context of a century long rivalry between two football clubs based in Glasgow. Unfortunately it seems that plenty of people in our OF obsessed sports media suffered from that. Ludicrous to see them asking Strachan was he worried about playing at Celtic Park. Anyway, far more important that all that shite was the win. I'm still watching that goal over and over again. With the Waspies then getting a draw at Ibrox on Saturday this was a quite magnificent sporting weekend. Bring on England Love that roar when we scored. Here is a video of the goal from multiple angles 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I could have sworn that the rivalry that took place on Friday was based on 2 countries qualifying for a major tournament rather than something along religious lines. The other shit is only for the brainless so why worry! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Fell asleep after Kevin...zzz And why would I give the slightest f**k about that? You've muddled your post up a bit but I think you're asking what I'd do if Ned Jnr married a Scot and then they had a son who was born in China, was raised in China and then the wee lad has a Scotland top ? Why would I have a problem with that ? Ned Jnr has an Italian top ! A better question would be if Kevin, despite being born and raised in China all his life (?) suddenly decided that he was actually Scottish .... what would I do then !? Well I'd like to think he had some sort of affinity with Scotland but he'd still be Chinese ! Not sure what your "similar looking nationalities" pish is all about !! Where do you get the arrogance from to declare what nationality someone is? As long as someone has a legitimate claim to a nationality they can call themselves that if it's how they feel, it's none of your business if you agree with them or not. Pray for Ned Nederlander if that 100% Spaniard Jack Harper chooses to turn his back on his country and play for Scotland. At last the post getting back to the football ! Scotland deserved to win hands down, they played the better football and created better chances whilst stopping the Irish players creating anything of note. The game whilst not the most skillfull had the passion and importance that meant the pub went into meltdown when we scored something i have not witnessed since France away. We also deserved this result as Scotland are the unluckiest team ever and Ireland the luckiest! Not sure if serious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeNewcomer Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I support Scotland first, Ireland second. My wish is for both countries to qualify from the group if possible. But I cannot and will not support those who hide behind "football rivalry" in order to spout their (scarcely-concealed at the best of times) anti-Irish bigotry. Absolute myth. Apart from the minority of unionist, bigot rangers fans there is no anti-irishness what so ever but just a bitter resentment of plastic paddyness. Scottish and irish fans were partying together after the game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Ned Jnr is half Italian and likes to see Italy doing well (we're watching the Croatia game right now FWIW, or were cause it's been stopped for crowd trouble) but does he support Italy over Scotland ? does he f'ck ! And does he claim to be Italian rather than Scottish ? course he fucking doesn't !! I'm half English and spent a third of my life down there - will I be supporting England on Tuesday night - course I fucking won't ... I was born and bred in Scotland FFS !! Half this board could probably claim "Irish Heritage" (I could) but let's face it the only ones pretending to be Irish are the ones that were dragged up by an Old Firm supporting parent. If it's any consolation to the Plastics reading this I'd state that the knuckle-draggers that support Northern Ireland or England ahead of Scotland rate higher in the moron stakes !! Sorry, but I have to pull you up on your amazing display of ignorance regarding the reigning Home International Champions old bean. Windsor Park used to be a sectarian cesspit many years ago, of that there is no doubt, but many decent fans tired of it and worked endlessly to change things, culminating in the Brussels International Supporters Award 2006. Neil Lennon had this to say, "People like Stewart are the unsung heroes who have been brave enough to challenge sectarianism and who have actively created a more fun, safe and family-orientated atmosphere at international games. Fans like Stewart have made the atmosphere at Northern Ireland football games in recent years the envy of Fans across not only Europe but World football. From a personal point of view I would like to thank them for their efforts." Nice try at reinforcing a clichéd old stereotype though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Prince Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Love that roar when we scored. Here is a video of the goal from multiple angles The sheer joy and just 'FUCKIN YAS' from the players is my favourite part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Where do you get the arrogance from to declare what nationality someone is? As long as someone has a legitimate claim to a nationality they can call themselves that if it's how they feel, it's none of your business if you agree with them or not. Pray for Ned Nederlander if that 100% Spaniard Jack Harper chooses to turn his back on his country and play for Scotland. I skipped over you mentioning this earlier as I didn't really have a clue what you were on about ... and I guess I still don't - how do manage to have a legitimate claim to another nationality ? I'm not trying to argue with you here I genuinely don't know ? Both my kids were born in Scotland and both are entitled to carry Italian passports but neither of them are Italian or would ever claim to be ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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