diegomarahenry Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Lachlan needs to address the fact the manager is becoming a hate figure, which, when you are running a business that relies on people leaving their house in all weathers to part with their cash and be willing to do that 18+ times a season is going to have an effect on running that business. A thread started on the honest page looking for Roberts to be sacked in September 2012 and its been revived about once a month since, 3 different seasons have resulted in the same outcome(although at the moment we are showing relegation form) and it was clear about this time last year that Roberts wasn't going to learn from his mistakes, players were going backwards and crowds were dropping. Its now November 2014 and any hope of a successful season will be gone before Xmas. What will tempt stay away supporters back? a relegation fight? coordinated by a manager who is squaring up to fans and saying he doesn't need them to like him and a stay-away chairman with a finger no where near the pulse with frequent bouts of naivety when it comes to running a football club? The club has invested a lot in the playing squad this year and done well to tie players to longer contracts, many of them full time and there is a real possibility crowds could be as low as 500 going forward because fans know there is no point in going to Somerset to demonstrate because Cameron wont be there along with Kirkwood or Torrie I wonder how long he'll keep topping up soft loans before he finally sacks Roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPrice Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It'd be a good laugh if every fan actually 'boycotted' the next home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'd be interested to know what he feels Roberts is doing appreciably better now than he was two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I like Roberts. I especially like his tactic of waving through Pars midfielders and inviting them to take pot shots from around the box whenever you come to East End Park. We wouldn't be slumming it in third place if every manager adopted his bold approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsareunited Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I like Roberts. I especially like his tactic of waving through Pars midfielders and inviting them to take pot shots from around the box whenever you come to East End Park. We wouldn't be slumming it in third place if every manager adopted his bold approach. You don't need to tackle in the modern game, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You don't need to tackle in the modern game, apparently. Exactly - all these dinosaurs like Duffy and Campbell are downright rude guests to East End. Roberts is a gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It'd be a good laugh if every fan actually 'boycotted' the next home game. Put it this way, I don't think anyone would need to arrange or suggest one for it to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quitongo's Left Peg Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I can understand the frustration from Ayr fans. I saw them against Hurlford in pre-season, and although comfortably winning that day they were poor. Suddenly they fire a great run together, and in the highlights I saw looked very dangerous. Then against Killie in the cup they were quite impressive, although how much of that was down to Roberts and how much was down to the adrenaline of a big game is up for debate. So there are signs that there's a good manager in there somewhere, just maybe not at Ayr United if the fans aren't buying him any longer. Hopefully they turn it around though and start pushing to get higher up the divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 "I recognise what fans are saying but we have players who are big supporters of Mark and are dying to play for him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPrice Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Put it this way, I don't think anyone would need to arrange or suggest one for it to happen True. Not that it'd make much difference to Lachlan. He'll not be there anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk89 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 True. Not that it'd make much difference to Lachlan. He'll not be there anyway... It will when he starts getting red flags all over the clubs accounts, which surely must be starting to appear the way the crowd has been dropping off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It will when he starts getting red flags all over the clubs accounts, which surely must be starting to appear the way the crowd has been dropping off. false flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dug Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Players that are dying to play for Roberts???? Lachlan needs to sack whoever is telling him this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPrice Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Yeah if that's the players who 'love' Roberts, you think they could at least try a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dug Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'd be inclined to listen to what Lachlan was saying if he'd actually watched some of these performances. Rapidly losing my respect for the big guy over the way he's handling this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheldonCooper Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Players that are dying to play for Roberts???? Lachlan needs to sack whoever is telling him this crap. The only player dying to play for Roberts is McLaughlin as it's the only way he will get a game in the Senior ranks. Should of read the players that hate Roberts and now take great pleasure in playing/scoring against us each week! McAuasland, Buchannan, Malcolm, Trouten, G Smith are a few that come to mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrTroopMajor Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I can understand the frustration from Ayr fans. I saw them against Hurlford in pre-season, and although comfortably winning that day they were poor. Suddenly they fire a great run together, and in the highlights I saw looked very dangerous. Then against Killie in the cup they were quite impressive, although how much of that was down to Roberts and how much was down to the adrenaline of a big game is up for debate. So there are signs that there's a good manager in there somewhere, just maybe not at Ayr United if the fans aren't buying him any longer. Hopefully they turn it around though and start pushing to get higher up the divisions. It's got to the stage where I honestly do not want him to turn it around. The people who called for him to be sacked in 2012 were far too premature, but here we are with zero progress made 2 years later. I loved Mark Roberts as a player and am genuinely gutted the way things have turned out. Those who used to cheer his name now can't stomach him, and it feels like all the good he did in an Ayr shirt is being totally cancelled out by his delusion that he is the man to take Ayr United forward as a manager. We need a fresh start, the fans all know it and I think deep down Roberts knows it, but he's hardly gonna give up the only job he'll get in senior football. If Lachlan doesn't waken up now, that's the 2013-14 season down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dug Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 That's where I do have some sympathy for Roberts. What's he supposed to do - walk out on a wage when he has no hope of another job? None of us would do that in the real world, so it's unfair to expect it of him. But all we've got now is a guy hanging around waiting to be sacked. He knows it's coming...we know it's coming...and deep down the board know they have to do it. All this pissing around and talk about statements made in the summer is just an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayr_United_1910 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 See this whole debate is a waste of time. Personally, I lost all faith in anything involving Ayr United a long time ago. This happened to me due to constant disappointment and lack of interest coming from the people who run the club. I read daily, the passion from the supporters who are crying out for Roberts to go, not because they hate Roberts, but because the whole thing has gone stale and desperation for change has set in. Roberts himself has turned this into a ''the fans hate me but I don't care'' situation, but in reality it's just the passion of the fans taking over and as he is the manager he gets it in the neck. Unfortunately, I knew the chairman wouldn't do anything. It's too much hassle for him to sack Roberts and look for someone to replace him. He knows things are bad, f*ck Roberts himself knows things are bad, but absolutely nothing will get done about it. At the moment anyway. If things get any worse and we go even further down the table, say into the relegation places, then if he doesn't do anything then, then that'll show everyone that supports the club that he really can't be arsed & that the club doesn't deserve their support. However, with the players we've got & this break coming up, I don't expect our position to get any worse. Mid-table obscurity suits the board, means things can tick along nicely without any hassle. They are looking to run the club with the least amount of disruption and hassle possible. Constant bombarding from fans to get Roberts sacked will not changed this, he just ignores the messages/emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk89 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Early doors yet but I'd like to congratulate Mark on not dropping any points today. Positivity and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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