doulikefish Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Be interesting to see if the kippers take labour votes aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Holy shit the monster raving loony party think they have a genuine chance of beating the libs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Thats just from Yvette Cooper alone these days. The more immigrants we can get in here the quicker the welfare system will collapse. Bring it on. The amount of disdain I have for this person is probably outweighed by my disgust at the sarcastic, manipulative, odious and dictatorial liberal nazi that is Stella Creasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Will this be UKIP's third MP now? Second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyM Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Holy shit the monster raving loony party think they have a genuine chance of beating the libs Wouldn't surprise me. The LibDem candidate has zero charisma. The highlight of his campaign so far, according to the local paper, seems to be that he had a "missed call" from Nick Clegg on his mobile a couple of weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 The notion that there is an unmovable maximum amount of jobs and immigration means one less job for someone else, is how a child would analyse the issue. Immigrants are demonstrably hard-working, entrepreneurial and significantly better net contributors to the public purse than the locals. All these immigrants are doing is propping up our welfare state, whilst the biggest scroungers we have - baby boomer old folk - seethingly complain about them. Long may they come here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Immigrants also send more money to poorer countries than the top economies do. When most of our immigrants are also financially supporting Britain's biggest trade partner - the EU - it's just great for business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipped Flake Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 UKIP will stroll this but, IMO, will fail to win many seats at all in the GE. The more publicity they get, the more people will realise they are just the BNP in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Looks like Labour have been deliberately lacklustre hoping that UKIP would deliver a blow to the Tories, so I would maybe tactically vote Tory to keep UKIP out. As someone who is very pro-immigration UKIP pretty much represent everything I disagree politically, after Mark Reckless' comments about repatriating immigrants he represents the worst aspects of a terrible party. In saying that the last time I intended to tactically vote (Lib Dem in a Tory/Lib Dem marginal) I bottled it and voted Labour anyway. If I can't tactically vote for the Lib Dems (pre-coalition) then I'm not sure if I'd have the stomach to vote Tory. Assuming Labour don't come close this may be one of the few occasions I actually want a Conservative victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Looks like Labour have been deliberately lacklustre hoping that UKIP would deliver a blow to the Tories, so I would maybe tactically vote Tory to keep UKIP out. As someone who is very pro-immigration UKIP pretty much represent everything I disagree politically, after Mark Reckless' comments about repatriating immigrants he represents the worst aspects of a terrible party. In saying that the last time I intended to tactically vote (Lib Dem in a Tory/Lib Dem marginal) I bottled it and voted Labour anyway. If I can't tactically vote for the Lib Dems (pre-coalition) then I'm not sure if I'd have the stomach to vote Tory. Assuming Labour don't come close this may be one of the few occasions I actually want a Conservative victory. thats quite funny,im now more convinced your on the wind up but much better than the ukip types hb reynard etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me. The LibDem candidate has zero charisma. The highlight of his campaign so far, according to the local paper, seems to be that he had a "missed call" from Nick Clegg on his mobile a couple of weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Mark Reckless to be sympathetic to his own mother’s immigration status http://www.thedailypatriot.co.uk/mark-reckless-to-be-sympathetic-to-his-own-mothers-immigration-status/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Looks like Labour have been deliberately lacklustre hoping that UKIP would deliver a blow to the Tories. Labour :lol: Not a drip of principle left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Will this be UKIP's third MP now? Second. Or they take the jobs that work shy Brits don't want. Swings and roundabouts. Here's a novel idea. How about we tell these "work shy Brits" that if they're offered a perfectly good job and don't want it then they can't expect society to feed them and house them? If said Brit is fired because they have found someone better at their job, where their replacement comes from will have f**k all to do with it. For the company, nope, but for the country itself it's better to have almost all British people in jobs. Holy shit the monster raving loony party think they have a genuine chance of beating the libs I would love it, love the seethe this would cause. I often wonder why the MRLP don't tend to get more protest votes tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 For the company, nope, but for the country itself it's better to have almost all British people in jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 For the company, nope, but for the country itself it's better to have almost all British people in jobs. You've put absolutely no reason as to why that should be the case. Convincing stuff. Immigrants are contributing just as much to society as everyone else, and are arguably doing a better job of it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 You've put absolutely no reason as to why that should be the case. Convincing stuff. Immigrants are contributing just as much to society as everyone else, and are arguably doing a better job of it too. I've never denied that the immigrants themselves are contributing. What I'm arguing is that the jobs they're doing is something an unemployed Brit could do. I understand economics. Think of it. For arguments sake let's say there are 45 million British people of working age and there are 40 million jobs to go around. If there were no immigrants at all, we'd have 5 million unemployed people and 40m Brits working and paying taxes. Now suppose a million immigrants come in and 800,000 of them find a job and pay their taxes. The immigrants themselves are net contributors but the problem is they're forcing the government to support an extra 800k Brits on the dole as well as the 5m that are already there. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 I've never denied that the immigrants themselves are contributing. What I'm arguing is that the jobs they're doing is something an unemployed Brit could do. I understand economics. Think of it. For arguments sake let's say there are 45 million British people of working age and there are 40 million jobs to go around. If there were no immigrants at all, we'd have 5 million unemployed people and 40m Brits working and paying taxes. Now suppose a million immigrants come in and 800,000 of them find a job and pay their taxes. The immigrants themselves are net contributors but the problem is they're forcing the government to support an extra 800k Brits on the dole as well as the 5m that are already there. HTH Laughably over-simplified. If 1m people come here, they're going to need to buy food, heat their homes, entertain themselves, like the people who are already here. Why would 40m be able to support the wants and needs of the population but the number of "jobs to go around" stays exactly the same when you add an extra million people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Mr.Bairn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Who the f**k are the patriotic socialist party? Sounds rather sinister to me? I think Joey Stalin has been a big influence on the bloke who thought this one up? Grimbo Oh, they're a real treat. Little more than a hobby party for knob ends that want to be far right without getting sent to their rooms by their mum - "he's not the Fuhrer, he's a very naughty boy!" They've got a parish councillor, but many English parish councils are full of minor party candidates because they're so desperate to get people to man them they get co-opted on mid term. Holy shit the monster raving loony party think they have a genuine chance of beating the libs They've been trotting that line out every time for the past few years. I don't think their election agent (a former councillor) even believes that's true. All that's happened is the bookies are offering the same odds on the LibDems taking the seat as the OMRLP - but it's become fairly commonplace in by-elections with large slates of candidates to offer one flat rate set of odds for the no-hopes rather than bother calculating it for each one, especially when there's going to be little bets placed on them. The real interest will be if the Loonies beat Britain First - it will be unlikely they'd be able to live it down & that'll be another far right party biting the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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