Gordon EF Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Well the SNP running of the police is shambolic. They have taken a world class police service and ruined it totally with this merger. It doesn't work. How is it not working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 How is it not working? Ask any police officer, it has been an absolute disaster. What they've essentially done is put all the existing forces under Glasgow control. The Stirling crash scandal is just the tip of the iceberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ask any police officer, it has been an absolute disaster. What they've essentially done is put all the existing forces under Glasgow control. The Stirling crash scandal is just the tip of the iceberg. I have a relative who is a police officer (Borders) and the re-organisation isn't the issue as far as he is concerned, the budget cuts are his biggest concern. The fact that they went hand in hand perhaps obfuscates the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Letting Pccabe join overshadows any other issues the police have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 SNP get nearly 70% of the vote in yesterday's by-election in Denny - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ask any police officer, it has been an absolute disaster. What they've essentially done is put all the existing forces under Glasgow control. The Stirling crash scandal is just the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, I've heard plenty people say it's bad. It's mostly just been "but centralisation" type arguments. I'd be interested in actual reasons why policing is worse than it was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland B Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, I've heard plenty people say it's bad. It's mostly just been "but centralisation" type arguments. I'd be interested in actual reasons why policing is worse than it was before. Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troptimus Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, I've heard plenty people say it's bad. It's mostly just been "but centralisation" type arguments. I'd be interested in actual reasons why policing is worse than it was before. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service was "centralised" on the same day as Police Scotland, but never gets the same level of criticism thrown at it? If you are hypothesising that amalgamating equates to a “ruined” service, then surely merging all 8 fire services should have resulted in Scotland burning to the ground by now. HMRC should give both SFRS and Police Scotland VAT exemption – the money reclaimed would be extremely useful to both services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ask any police officer, it has been an absolute disaster. What they've essentially done is put all the existing forces under Glasgow control. The Stirling crash scandal is just the tip of the iceberg. The HQ is in Alloa, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 HMRC should give both SFRS and Police Scotland VAT exemption – the money reclaimed would be extremely useful to both services. The bill to do that was rejected by Westminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The only guy I know in the police has criticised the centralisation but he also regularly tweets Jill Stephenson (sp?) and Euan McColm so lol at taking his opinions seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Don't think you can deny public trust in the police is very low since the centralisation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Don't think you can deny public trust in the police is very low since the centralisation Again, I've heard lots of people say things like this. I've yet to hear a specific, backed up criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Again, I've heard lots of people say things like this. I've yet to hear a specific, backed up criticism. The thing is though, with a public service with the police. It doesn't matter what the specifics are.... it's all about opinions. Even if Police Scotland provided all the stats telling us it's a big improvement. If people believe they are doing a poor job, its hard to change that. I do think if Stephen House went, that would be a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 There are regular complains in the local papers in Edinburgh about the Strathclydeification of Police Scotland. Lothian and Borders has always benefited from a lighter touch, and that's been done away with. It's also quite obvious that the heavier touch benefits those groups in the polis who are, well, fucking crooks - see the attempted protection racket on the Arches, which has knocked out a serious cultural hub for the sake of some PCs getting a bit of extra overtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Failed Tory Candidate for Perth & North Perthshire Alexander Stewart to stand for election in Clackmannanshire & Dumblane for the Tories. So by my count that'll be 2 rejections in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Failed Tory Candidate for Perth & North Perthshire Alexander Stewart to stand for election in Clackmannanshire & Dumblane for the Tories. So by my count that'll be 2 rejections in a row. Yup. If it looks like a Tory and smells like a Tory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 The mans an arse, told me I was wasting my vote for the SNP and was clearly a young man with no brains. I would like to see where that attitude gets him in Clackmannanshire. Probably the nearest hospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 The mans an arse, told me I was wasting my vote for the SNP and was clearly a young man with no brains. I would like to see where that attitude gets him in Clackmannanshire. Probably the nearest hospital Is that what he said to you? f**k him, he deserves to remain in the political wilderness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I see Adam Tomkins wants to stand for parliament next year. He wants to see Ruth as FM and doesn't believe the SNP "deserve" to be in power, they are a protest party. Looking forward to the tears when he fails to get elected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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