southerner Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hope BSC Glasgow pump Talbot. You want us out incase we come and humiliate you !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Talbot have played in the tournament 4 times before, losing to 3 SPFL clubs plus Edinburgh City. Championship club Raith Rovers (entering R3) have played a Junior club once, beating Linlithgow Rose 2-0. So objectively I'd doubt it's apprehension at the thought of meeting you. Incidentally, to answer my earlier pondering, the last Aberdeen derby in the Scottish Cup appears to have been Aberdeen v Orion on 6th September 1890. So over 125yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccabe Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Talbot have played in the tournament 4 times before, losing to 3 SPFL clubs plus Edinburgh City. Championship club Raith Rovers (entering R3) have played a Junior club once, beating Linlithgow Rose 2-0. So objectively I'd doubt it's apprehension at the thought of meeting you. Incidentally, to answer my earlier pondering, the last Aberdeen derby in the Scottish Cup appears to have been Aberdeen v Orion on 6th September 1890. So over 125yrs. No doubt he's another one who thinks Junior clubs shouldn't be in it.Although why he felt the need just to pick Talbot out all the Junior teams is a bit strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedafc Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 No doubt he's another one who thinks Junior clubs shouldn't be in it. Although why he felt the need just to pick Talbot out all the Junior teams is a bit strange. I'm fine with any club being in it providing they have the facilities particularly floodlights. It took numerous attempts to get Lochee Utd v Ayr United game played with 1pm ko Monday/Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccabe Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I'm fine with any club being in it providing they have the facilities particularly floodlights. It took numerous attempts to get Lochee Utd v Ayr United game played with 1pm ko Monday/WednesdayPlenty of ties are postponed from the so called bigger clubs.Should we ban every club who don't have undersoil heating? What difference does the ko time have? The Junior clubs were invited to enter they did not ask or beg to be in it. Clearly the SFA must have thought they were needed to make the early rounds more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I'm fine with any club being in it providing they have the facilities particularly floodlights. It took numerous attempts to get Lochee Utd v Ayr United game played with 1pm ko Monday/Wednesday Floodlights are a requirement for a step above the entry level licence criteria and entry level is sufficient to qualify for the Scottish Cup. So that's just a grin and bear it scenario when it happens on the very rare occasion. Moreover there was a vote taken that any club entering had to have minimum of entry level licence and that was defeated so there doesn't seem to be an appetite to go down this road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 The Junior clubs were invited to enter they did not ask or beg to be in it. Clearly the SFA must have thought they were needed to make the early rounds more interesting. In fairness that's nonsense. SJFA had been lobbying to try to get teams in the Scottish Cup for some time - and David Taylor wanted to get them in as a carrot before involvement in a pyramid system. (That idea turned-out well ). Taylor's first attempt was to replace the 12 random byes in the old R1 with the Qualifying Cup North & South quarter-finalists plus 4 Junior qualifiers... however this was defeated: the SFA membership had objections to 4 non-members qualifying when half of the non-league seniors members still would not, and there was no mechanism for the senior non-members in the EOS and SOS leagues which was seen as unfair. Following year Taylor came back with an 'all-in' format plus ability of EOS & SOS league winners to qualify, and it passed. Ergo - reorganisation in 2007 was directly inspired by requests, desires and wants of including Juniors, and wasn't news to SJFA. As regards floodlights I don't see why they should be mandatory. They aren't required for entry licensing either. We all know the archaic situation in the Juniors regarding the use of artificial light - although 2 of this years Junior entrants actually have them! - but there were also 8 Seniors without them among the 92 clubs entering, mostly from the EOS/SOS/NCFL leagues, plus Harestanes at Kilsyth. Indeed there were 6 clubs in yesterday's draw without floodlights and only 3 of them were Juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 When is the Girvan replay being held? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Saturday coming. Up to and including R3 (before Premiership enters) a second attempt can be made on weekends. Before 2007 it was similar, i.e. up to and including R2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 No doubt he's another one who thinks Junior clubs shouldn't be in it. Although why he felt the need just to pick Talbot out all the Junior teams is a bit strange. Considering that one of the biggest objections to the Lowland League from Junior sides is that 'joke clubs' like BSC Glasgow and Cumbernauld Colts are in it, I'm assuming the point is that it would be hilarious to see a team like that defeat one of the biggest Junior clubs in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccabe Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Considering that one of the biggest objections to the Lowland League from Junior sides is that 'joke clubs' like BSC Glasgow and Cumbernauld Colts are in it, I'm assuming the point is that it would be hilarious to see a team like that defeat one of the biggest Junior clubs in the country. Wont happen though. I don't consider them joke clubs just clubs with no real tradition but who have came along at the right time to take advantage of a joke system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Considering that one of the biggest objections to the Lowland League from Junior sides is that 'joke clubs' like BSC Glasgow and Cumbernauld Colts are in it, I'm assuming the point is that it would be hilarious to see a team like that defeat one of the biggest Junior clubs in the country. Exactly that. I think the Junior clubs as a whole collective attitude stinks and I want the floor to be wiped with them whenever they play a Lowland League side. Ambitious clubs like BSC were mocked by fans of the likes of Talbot. Would love to see them come to the realisation that these team have left them behind. Maybe they'd think twice next time applications open. As for me scared of facing Talbot? That's cute, it really is. Awwww. Seriously, one of most out of form Raith teams managed by a complete buffoon breezed past Linlithgow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccabe Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Exactly that. I think the Junior clubs as a whole collective attitude stinks and I want the floor to be wiped with them whenever they play a Lowland League side. Ambitious clubs like BSC were mocked by fans of the likes of Talbot. Would love to see them come to the realisation that these team have left them behind. Maybe they'd think twice next time applications open. As for me scared of facing Talbot? That's cute, it really is. Awwww. Seriously, one of most out of form Raith teams managed by a complete buffoon breezed past Linlithgow . BSC who are they? Certainly nowhere near as big a club as Auchinleck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Wont happen though. I don't consider them joke clubs just clubs with no real tradition but who have came along at the right time to take advantage of a joke system. Why not? There's a far bigger gulf between Morton and Spartans than between BSC and Auchinleck. Surely that's the whole point of cup football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pccabe Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Why not? There's a far bigger gulf between Morton and Spartans than between BSC and Auchinleck. Surely that's the whole point of cup football. Would be willing to bet a week's wages Auchinleck will stroll this tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Exactly that. I think the Junior clubs as a whole collective attitude stinks and I want the floor to be wiped with them whenever they play a Lowland League side. Ambitious clubs like BSC were mocked by fans of the likes of Talbot. Would love to see them come to the realisation that these team have left them behind. Maybe they'd think twice next time applications open. As for me scared of facing Talbot? That's cute, it really is. Awwww. Seriously, one of most out of form Raith teams managed by a complete buffoon breezed past Linlithgow . I also think the attitude stinks but let's not get caught up in the emotion of it all eh. Raith were more than matched. It happens in cup ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Would be willing to bet a week's wages Auchinleck will stroll this tie. Good for you. I'm not prepared to bet a week's wages on an underdog, I'm not that rich or stupid. Maybe I just rate the Lowland League a bit higher than I should after watching Spartans knock Morton out of last season's tournament. Could you remind me what league Talbot's conquerors came from? Surely not a "joke system"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccabe Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Good for you. I'm not prepared to bet a week's wages on an underdog, I'm not that rich or stupid. Maybe I just rate the Lowland League a bit higher than I should after watching Spartans knock Morton out of last season's tournament. Could you remind me what league Talbot's conquerors came from? Surely not a "joke system"? When the bookies prices come out you will see it is not Auchinleck who are the underdogs. Auchinleck are a bigger and better club than made up fc from Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 When the bookies prices come out you will see it is not Auchinleck who are the underdogs. Auchinleck are a bigger and better club than made up fc from Glasgow. Of course Auchinleck will be favourites, hence my point that I wouldn't be taking you up on your bet of a week's wages on the outcome of the tie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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