kevthedee Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 If you "mr mcruffian" can possibly supply reasons as to why we should bend over to this type of propaganda, I'll be happy to debate. Propaganda ?? The source of the story is from a snp councillor,are you suggesting she is telling lies,something you say the snp dont do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Propaganda ?? The source of the story is from a snp councillor,are you suggesting she is telling lies,something you say the snp dont do. The source could have been anybody and you'd still swallow swallow. Are you sure you're not a Rangers fan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Propaganda ?? The source of the story is from a snp councillor,are you suggesting she is telling lies,something you say the snp dont do. Are you sure Kev? My understanding was that she resigned from the party last month citing "irreconcilable differences" over MSP selection. I assume she wasn't picked. Has she now rejoined & resigned again for a different reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 The source could have been anybody and you'd still swallow swallow. Are you sure you're not a Rangers fan ? Could say the same for you,anyone has a go at the snp its all union lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Are you sure Kev? My understanding was that she resigned from the party last month citing "irreconcilable differences" over MSP selection. I assume she wasn't picked. Has she now rejoined & resigned again for a different reason? The snp failed to deal with her complaint hence the "irreconcilable differences"reason for quitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 The snp failed to deal with her complaint hence the "irreconcilable differences"reason for quitting. She didn't mention any complaint re racism when she resigned last month. As I said above, at that time she resigned over "irreconcilable differences over MSP selection" I ask again, has she rejoined the party and resigned for a second time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Could say the same for you,anyone has a go at the snp its all union lies. If someone has a legitimate concern then fair enough. As it is... You were playing the but but SNP bad line like you usually do, followed with a link from a unionist newspaper. At least it wasn't your usual Daily Heil links. Can you provide us with some proof that the story isn't complete horse shit like they usually are ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Looks like sour grapes to me. Unionist papers and their stories eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I'm considering kevthedee as the support act for my Jimmy Carr show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 She didn't mention any complaint re racism when she resigned last month. As I said above, at that time she resigned over "irreconcilable differences over MSP selection" I ask again, has she rejoined the party and resigned for a second time? Not according to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRuffian Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Ah so there we have it. Claims of racial abuse within the party dismissed out of hand as 'sour grapes' by a cybernat. What a shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Ah so there we have it. Claims of racial abuse within the party dismissed out of hand as 'sour grapes' by a cybernat. What a shower. Without evidence of the abuse and the SNP reaction to said abuse there's no other way to assess the situation. Especially when she quit for entirely different reasons not one month previous. Typical unthinking cyber britnat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troptimus Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 The only busted flush i see is the certain people in the snp who dont like non scottish people organizing scottish themed events even when that person is a snp councillor. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/596934/SNP-email-Yen-Hongmei-Jin-chinese-quits Can you imagine the field day the media would have if the SNP endorsed a Chinese Burns Night? Bullying to the extreme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Ah so there we have it. Claims of racial abuse within the party dismissed out of hand as 'sour grapes' by a cybernat. What a shower. Did u actually read the article you oxymoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Did u actually read the article you oxymoron Did you even read the story or just the headline and class it as lies as you can see plenty of reports on the issue and its been reported to the police scotland. http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/scotland-s-only-chinese-snp-councillor-quits-party-over-racist-attack-email-1.893831 http://m.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/chinese-snp-councillor-quits-amid-racism-claims-1-3852813 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scotlands-only-chinese-snp-councillor-6218900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Did you even read the story or just the headline and class it as lies as you can see plenty of reports on the issue and its been reported to the police scotland. http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/scotland-s-only-chinese-snp-councillor-quits-party-over-racist-attack-email-1.893831 http://m.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/chinese-snp-councillor-quits-amid-racism-claims-1-3852813 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scotlands-only-chinese-snp-councillor-6218900 You put the triangle shape through the triangular window Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shputnik Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Response from Emma Harper Convener &Henry McClelland Vice Convenerof Dumfriesshire SNP Constituency Association on the Councillor Yen Hongmei Jin story in todays Scotsman sent to papers.Dear Editor,In response to last week’s press coverage, the Executive of the SNP Dumfriesshire Constituency Association, which represents the five local SNP branches and over a thousand local members, writes to clarify some points. We were never made aware of a “racially abusive email” that is alleged to have been sent by an un-named individual to Councillor Yen Hongmei Jin in February 2015. We still have not seen it and only know what Cllr Jin has given to the press. The CA deplores racism. If the CA received evidence of racism by a member, the CA would report it to the Party's National Secretary, in accordance with Party rules. Councillor Jin did not bring this to the attention of the CA, in spite of attending two meetings since she said she received this email. Nor did she alert her colleagues in the SNP council group. However after she received this alleged email in February she had a letter published in the May edition of SNP Magazine Independence praising the party's approach to equality and announcing her intention to seek a seat in parliament.We are saddened that Cllr Jin chose to take this matter to the press only after she failed to pass the candidate assessment for potential parliamentarians. The assessment process for Holyrood is conducted nationally and the local party has no role in it. We know however that it is tough, in order that the best candidates progress to the next stage. Many hard-working activists, including SNP councillors, fail to get through the process. Those who fail are given feedback and often go on to pass candidate assessment at a later date. Many who do pass are from ethnic minorities and become successful parliamentarians such as Humza Yousaf MSP and Tasmina Ahmed Sheik MP.When Cllr Jin failed the assessment she resigned from the SNP and attacked the party in the media. Three weeks later, Cllr Jin has again approached the media, this time accusing SNP colleagues of bullying and racism without evidence. If she received a racist email from one un-named individual we condemn that unequivocally. But one rogue individual does not represent the party locally or nationally. The CA is concerned that last week’s press coverage reflects unfairly on our hard-working, committed local membership, which is made up of people from many nationalities and backgrounds. Many of our activists have spent their whole lives fighting racism and will continue to do so. There should be no place in Scotland for racism. Yours sincerely,Emma Harper Convener, Henry McClelland Vice Conveneron behalf of Dumfriesshire SNP CA Two sides to every story.I know Jen and she's a wrong'un Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Kevthedee is suddenly a friend of the Chinese when it suits him. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Kevthedee is suddenly a friend of the Chinese when it suits him. Interesting. Response from Emma Harper Convener & Henry McClelland Vice Convener of Dumfriesshire SNP Constituency Association on the Councillor Yen Hongmei Jin story in todays Scotsman sent to papers. Dear Editor, In response to last week’s press coverage, the Executive of the SNP Dumfriesshire Constituency Association, which represents the five local SNP branches and over a thousand local members, writes to clarify some points. We were never made aware of a “racially abusive email” that is alleged to have been sent by an un-named individual to Councillor Yen Hongmei Jin in February 2015. We still have not seen it and only know what Cllr Jin has given to the press. The CA deplores racism. If the CA received evidence of racism by a member, the CA would report it to the Party's National Secretary, in accordance with Party rules. Councillor Jin did not bring this to the attention of the CA, in spite of attending two meetings since she said she received this email. Nor did she alert her colleagues in the SNP council group. However after she received this alleged email in February she had a letter published in the May edition of SNP Magazine Independence praising the party's approach to equality and announcing her intention to seek a seat in parliament. We are saddened that Cllr Jin chose to take this matter to the press only after she failed to pass the candidate assessment for potential parliamentarians. The assessment process for Holyrood is conducted nationally and the local party has no role in it. We know however that it is tough, in order that the best candidates progress to the next stage. Many hard-working activists, including SNP councillors, fail to get through the process. Those who fail are given feedback and often go on to pass candidate assessment at a later date. Many who do pass are from ethnic minorities and become successful parliamentarians such as Humza Yousaf MSP and Tasmina Ahmed Sheik MP. When Cllr Jin failed the assessment she resigned from the SNP and attacked the party in the media. Three weeks later, Cllr Jin has again approached the media, this time accusing SNP colleagues of bullying and racism without evidence. If she received a racist email from one un-named individual we condemn that unequivocally. But one rogue individual does not represent the party locally or nationally. The CA is concerned that last week’s press coverage reflects unfairly on our hard-working, committed local membership, which is made up of people from many nationalities and backgrounds. Many of our activists have spent their whole lives fighting racism and will continue to do so. There should be no place in Scotland for racism. Yours sincerely, Emma Harper Convener, Henry McClelland Vice Convener on behalf of Dumfriesshire SNP CA Two sides to every story.I know Jen and she's a wrong'un do you have a reason for her being a wrong un other than she dared to leave the snp and then have a go at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Simple way to clear this up,she can show the email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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