AsimButtHitsASix Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 This already started! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_FA_Cup_Qualifying_Rounds#Extra_Preliminary_Round Already the only three teams I give something close to half a monkey's about in England are out (Clapton, Waltham Forest and FC Romania) Biggest win was 11-0 for Coleshill Town v Ellesmere Rangers and Bishop Auckland got the highest attendance with 529 fans there to see their draw with Shildon I love this competition. I'm glad to Scottish is slowly getting the same with all these diddy of diddiest sides making the numbers up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE63 exile Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Bishop Auckland and Shildon has always been the big derby traditionally in South West Durham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I love this competition. I'm glad to Scottish is slowly getting the same with all these diddy of diddiest sides making the numbers up. Interestingly enough the Scottish Cup has 92 entrants this season versus 736 in the FA Cup... so compared to population, ours is actually more open? I also see it is known as "The Emirates FA Cup" this season. Is this a first - in the past it has normally been called "the AXA-sponsored FA Cup", or the "FA Cup with Budweiser", and so on, in order to respect the spirit of the tournament. I suppose it will be another example of money trumping tradition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Interestingly enough the Scottish Cup has 92 entrants this season versus 736 in the FA Cup... so compared to population, ours is actually more open? I've never thought of it that way. Would still like to see the Scottish Cup get far bigger and get rid of the League Cup altogether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 There's plenty of room for both cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Might be room but the league cup is shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's perfectly decent, although obviously less prestigious that the main cup. In a country where teams play others in their league four times each, a bit of variety should be encouraged. Expanding the cup doesn't guarantee an increase in games. Half the entrants will only play one tie. It's even more useful to have two cup competitions given the historical dominance of the league by two (and now one) teams. Gives others a better chance at getting some silverware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Prelim round today...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_FA_Cup_Qualifying_Rounds#Preliminary_RoundAs I said the three teams I wanted to go through all ballsed it up so I have decided to pick a new club to follow throughout the FA Cup this year and have chosen former Premier League* stars "Glossop North End". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm routing for former World Cup winners West Auckland Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It's perfectly decent, although obviously less prestigious that the main cup. In a country where teams play others in their league four times each, a bit of variety should be encouraged. Expanding the cup doesn't guarantee an increase in games. Half the entrants will only play one tie. It's even more useful to have two cup competitions given the historical dominance of the league by two (and now one) teams. Gives others a better chance at getting some silverware. Totally agree. Give me the likes of Carlisle at home in the League Cup over West Ham at home in the Premier League any day. Something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 I'm routing for former World Cup winners West Auckland Town. They're oot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 South Park beat Holmesdale 10-1 away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I love this competition. I'm glad to Scottish is slowly getting the same with all these diddy of diddiest sides making the numbers up. Ayr and Raith have already been in the competition for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Nothing can compete with the Coupe de France when it comes to allowing in Les Diddies. They have 8,506 entrants including clubs from their overseas departments and territories like French Polynesia, Tahiti and Guiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ayr and Raith have already been in the competition for decades. How did Morton get on last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 South Park beat Holmesdale 10-1 away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Mon the Tonbridge Angels. Entering at the next round I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Mon the Tonbridge Angels. Entering at the next round I think. Against Folkestone Invicta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Nothing can compete with the Coupe de France when it comes to allowing in Les Diddies. They have 8,506 entrants including clubs from their overseas departments and territories like French Polynesia, Tahiti and Guiana. If is quite remarkable, in that (AFAIA) all of these teams enter the tournament itself. In Germany for example only 64 clubs participate, but a number of these are the champions of regional cups from the previous season. Indeed, if Wikipedia is to be believed the nations with more or similar entries to use in Scotland are: France - 8,506 England - 736 Norway - 281 Belgium - 234 Slovakia - 214 Romania - 164 Hungary - 160 Turkey - 158 Portugal - 156 Israel - 151 Bosnia & Herzegovina - 144 Wales - 135 Czech Republic - 133 Finland - 132 Northern Ireland - 125 Russia - 110 Denmark - 104 Estonia - 103 Luxembourg - ~100 Austria - 98 Sweden - 96 Scotland - 92 Spain - 83 Netherlands - 82 Italy - 78 However even when you look at some of them it appears the figures in fact include all the entrants of local competitions in the previous season who get to submit a certain number of qualifiers. Bosnia even seems to have a sort of "Bosnian Qualifying Cup"... If you included the Senior non-league, Junior and Amateur clubs who could in theory qualify for the Scottish Cup from their own competitions we'd be approaching 1,000. Remaining 30 or so nations have ~64 entrants/fewer. I believe that Norway is the only cup in Europe where the top clubs enter at the Round of 128. Italy has a particularly rigged system, in favour of top teams: highest 8 in Serie A enter at Last 16, get seeded, and home draws!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Just compared those numbers to populations of those countries. France has one entrant in their national cup for just under ever 8,000 people and Russia has more than 1,000,000 people for every entrant... Russia - 1,309,373 Italy - 781,577 Spain - 558,253 Turkey - 495,025 Netherlands - 206,500 Romania - 120,865 Sweden - 102,021 Austria - 87,837 Czech Republic - 79,211 England - 72,023 Hungary - 61,469 Scotland - 57,910 Portugal - 54,558 Denmark - 54,548 Belgium - 48,115 Finland - 41,477 Bosnia & Herzegovina - 26,041 Slovakia - 25,355 Wales - 22,692 Norway - 18,484 Northern Ireland - 14,803 Estonia - 12,767 France - 7,773 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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