youngsy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 He was just a bit above average. Billy Stark was a better player. Next you'll be saying that Jim Clunie was a ball playing centre half, shull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Next you'll be saying that Jim Clunie was a ball playing centre half, shull.Decent defender, so I heard. Legend of a Saints Manager. Although unfortunately sacked, after we beat the Green Vermin FC at Parkhead one happy and glorious Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Decent defender, so I heard. Legend of a Saints Manager. Although unfortunately sacked, after we beat the Green Vermin FC at Parkhead one happy and glorious Saturday. Decent enough, an out and out stopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I don't know how many on here actually saw Jim Baxter play in the early to mid sixties, but he was the greatest player to play in the Scottish League in my lifetime, in my opinion. A truly world class player who wasted his talent and was finished in the game all too soon. Yet couldn't cut it down South. As for a loss to football, John White's death had more of a sporting impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yet couldn't cut it down South. As for a loss to football, John White's death had more of a sporting impact. Baxter could have played and been a success anywhere, the only thing that went against Baxter not being a success in England was Baxter himself. His attitude and commitment to training was terrible, the man himself confirmed that. However you don't play in Rest of the World teams if you're an average or mediocre player. Baxter's performances for Scotland while a Sunderland player showed that he was a world class player even though he didn't turn it on for Sunderland. As for the death of John White having more of a sporting impact, of course it did, he was 27 years old when he got killed, at his peak and his loss to the game, Spurs and Scotland, was massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I don't know how many on here actually saw Jim Baxter play in the early to mid sixties, but he was the greatest player to play in the Scottish League in my lifetime, in my opinion. A truly world class player who wasted his talent and was finished in the game all too soon. How're you doing Youngsy? Haven't seen you for a while. I only saw The Slim Yin when we came to Ibrox for the 2nd time and he was a busted flush. I was excited to see him after the build up he was given by my father, uncle et al but he clearly wasn't the same player who had roasted England even 2 years earlier. I think, though, that there's enough evidence to say you're right when you say he was, "A truly world class player who wasted his talent and was finished in the game all too soon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 How're you doing Youngsy? Haven't seen you for a while. I only saw The Slim Yin when we came to Ibrox for the 2nd time and he was a busted flush. I was excited to see him after the build up he was given by my father, uncle et al but he clearly wasn't the same player who had roasted England even 2 years earlier. I think, though, that there's enough evidence to say you're right when you say he was, "A truly world class player who wasted his talent and was finished in the game all too soon." Aye, i'm fine, T_K. The 1967 game v England is regarded by many as Baxter's finest game but he was tremendous in 1963 v England at Wembley when he scored both our goals in a 2-1 win, the game in which Bobby Smith broke Eric Caldow's leg. He also dominated the game v Brazil in 1966, a 1-1 draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Aye, i'm fine, T_K. The 1967 game v England is regarded by many as Baxter's finest game but he was tremendous in 1963 v England at Wembley when he scored both our goals in a 2-1 win, the game in which Bobby Smith broke Eric Caldow's leg. He also dominated the game v Brazil in 1966, a 1-1 draw. Youngsy, I mentioned the 67 game simply because, only 2 years later, Baxter had become a shadow of what he was. I'd have loved to see the '63 game. Our team sheet had so many top players: Bill Brown Alex Hamilton Dave Mackay Ian Ure Willie Henderson Jim Baxter Denis Law Ian St John* John White Eric Caldow (captain) Davie Wilson The vids I can find online are these. Not much but enjoyable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWNuNvJn8uw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu4knK0fu0k http://www.britishpathe.com/video/england-v-scotland-2 *Ian St J was from Motherwell same as me. If his niece is reading the thread I hope her memory of being lumbered by me is as fond as mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedfcno1 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Was a good documentary. Think Jim left rangers for an extra 10 quid a week at sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Another alky waster who couldn't cut it in Engand, wouldn't make it into squad if I had to pick a best Rangers 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Was a good documentary. Think Jim left rangers for an extra 10 quid a week at sunderland Baxter wanted £75 a week from Rangers, the BoD wouldn't pay it, at the time he and the rest of the squad were on £30 a week plus bonuses, not sure what Sunderland paid him. The year before his leg break Tottenham, who were the best in Britain at that time, were looking at Baxter to replace Danny Blanchflower who was getting on a bit, he would have been a great player for Spurs in a midfield consisting of White, Mackay and Baxter. One of the best footballers Scotland has ever produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 You just made that up. What part did i make up? Do a bit of reading about Tottenham Hotspur in the early 60s, without a doubt the best in Britain and Bill Nicholson was being encouraged by many at Spurs to maybe sign Baxter to replace Blanchflower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 The best in Britain bit. From 1960 to 1963 Spurs were rated the best in Britain, their record for those three years shows that. In 1963 Blanchflower was well past his peak, he was in his mid 30s, hence the link Baxter replacing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Couldn't Rangers not have boosted his salary with an EBT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Baxter he was the Barry Ferguson of his day. Like Charlie Miller and Iain Durrant roled into one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Baxter he was the Barry Ferguson of his day. Like Charlie Miller and Iain Durrant roled into one Did he like Kebabs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 No it doesn't. Far better judges of football than you rate that Tottenham side of the early 60s as the best in Britain at that time, so i think we'll leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Did he like Kebabs ? not invented in the 60's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Far better judges of football than you rate that Tottenham side of the early 60s as ONE OF the best in Britain at that time, so i think we'll leave it at that. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM5 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 God, there's some vile wee cretins on here. If you get off on trying to sully the reputation of a dead man you really need to have a look at yourself. Why even bother coming into this thread just to say someone, who is regarded very highly by most others, is shite? You guys need to get a grip, or get laid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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