Glenconner Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 After Isis, go after Saudi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Certainly on this side of the Atlantic, there were plenty of half-wits desperate to believe it. Even as the Bush Administration's claims got ever more ridiculous. "We couldn't find them because he hid them before we got there," morphed into "Well, we found stuff that suggest he could have made WMDs" and finally, "He was a very bad man." Years on, there are still people claiming we found them but the liberal media are refusing to report it. Add those to the cretins who think we invaded Iraq because they attacked us on 9/11 and the war, which Bush had planned even before he was elected, was a shoe-in. Vaguely remember seeing a poll a year or two back that implied a slim majority of Americans still thought Iraq had WMDs, and that Saddam had been responsible for the World Trade Center attack. Don't want to get into the "Americans are thick" thing, but WTF? Dubya could personally announce it was all a scam and it surely wouldn't make a difference at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 After Isis, go after Saudi. Indian domestic servant: Saudi employer 'cut off my arm' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34490731 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 What are Saudi Arabia's military defences like, just out of curiosity? Not planning on starting up a coup or anything I SAID I'M NOT PLEASE NOT GUANTANAMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Vaguely remember seeing a poll a year or two back that implied a slim majority of Americans still thought Iraq had WMDs, and that Saddam had been responsible for the World Trade Center attack. Don't want to get into the "Americans are thick" thing, but WTF? Dubya could personally announce it was all a scam and it surely wouldn't make a difference at this point Let's just go with "American Republicans are thick" and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I doubt we'll see the phrase "monotheistic Wahhabism" used on P&B again. What a time to be alive. I can see it being adapted to 'monotheistic WAHHH-ism' next time someone's on the Verge of Tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If there is to be a military solution in Syria then it has to be in coordination with the government, as well as Russia and Iran etc. Government and military officials in both Iraq and Syria have been saying for the past year that the US coalition against ISIS isn't serious, and however much you want to believe the Russians have been hitting ISIS or not, what they have done in just a few weeks is shore up the Syrian army which can only be a good thing for the stability of the country in the near term. If the US were to swallow its pride and accept the offer to share intelligence and work with Russia for what is allegedly a common goal, then maybe we'd see some real progress. If this involved troops on the ground, legitimately at Assad's request, then so be it. I'd prefer to see it resolved without a military escalation though. I refuse to believe that the combined intelligence services don't know which states are supporting IS in the provision of weapons and finance, including the purchase of all the oil we're told is a major source of income. Crippling financial sanctions and political isolation levelled against these nations, as well as appropriate criminal proceedings against individuals would be the correct thing to do, but it seems the bigger picture of geopolitical alliances takes precedence over any desire to eradicate terrorism. Surely if we trace the weapons they're using we'll only find out that it was us that sold them to the bad guys! So the saudis are the key to the whole ball game? They're bankrolling isis off the back of their 'special' relationship with the west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I can see it being adapted to 'monotheistic WAHHH-ism' next time someone's on the Verge of Tears Was it them that did 'The Story Of The Blues'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Anyone see the bangs at the memories on the news just there? I laughed my c**t off at the boy going on his arse on the candles trying to run away Just me then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Was it them that did 'The Story Of The Blues'? Interesting glimpse into your musical tastes there, Zen Or is it just this aspect that you're interested in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Surely if we trace the weapons they're using we'll only find out that it was us that sold them to the bad guys! So the saudis are the key to the whole ball game? They're bankrolling isis off the back of their 'special' relationship with the west? Depends what you mean by the Saudis. If you mean the Saudi state then probably not. Individual wealthy Saudis? Quite possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Interesting glimpse into your musical tastes there, Zen Or is it just this aspect that you're interested in? It's all about the bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Reports coming in that French planes have started bombing Raqqa. That didn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Sky are reporting that one of the suspects on the run was questioned and released hours after the attack. Ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Sky are reporting that one of the suspects on the run was questioned and released hours after the attack. Ffs The French police haven't got a clouseau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Just me then Think you were about two hours late with that. We'd already laughed at the panic attack mob running away from their own shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 So much wrong with this I'm not sure where to begin. Nobody has been attacked by a state. ISIS are not a state, they are a terrorist group just as Al Qaeda are. Just because they call themselves a state doesn't make them one. Sending troops to Iraq and Syria (both sovereign nations)? Great idea. It's worked out well before in Iraq and Afghanistan (which was not a success, contrary to your jibberish). "Installing democracy"? Pray tell how one goes about "installing" democracy? Re: refugees. You think that us sending in troops, and engaging in a ground war, would result in less refugees? Please read some books. Innocent civilians from the Islamic State? Again, you do realise that "Islamic State" is a terrorist group, yes? You cannot be an innocent civilian from a terrorist group. Innocent civilians are innocent civilians. They're a state. That's why they're ISIS. That's not a word they picked out their arse. It's the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria You install democracy by massacring these terrorist c***s and allowing the good people in ISIS to elect their own leaders. If the refugees lived in a country safe and democratic then there would be no need for them to row to Greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 What are Saudi Arabia's military defences like, just out of curiosity? Not planning on starting up a coup or anything I SAID I'M NOT PLEASE NOT GUANTANAMO Saudi's are protected by NATO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 They're a state. That's why they're ISIS. That's not a word they picked out their arse. It's the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria You install democracy by massacring these terrorist c***s and allowing the good people in ISIS to elect their own leaders. If the refugees lived in a country safe and democratic then there would be no need for them to row to Greece. Good people in Isis??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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