Explosion in Paris

[Srevart Treb]

So you are both a troll and a thick f**k then. Eloquence of your posts??? You're a mess of a man. Take some time off, and read back over your posts. You're a mess.

I dont think you understand the definition, but then you are a very simple human.

[welshbairn]

Not hate, far too strong.

Disagree with their ideology.

Almost word for word what Breivik said.

[Srevart Treb]

Almost word for word what Breivik said.

Did you know him well?

[scotfree]

I dont think you understand the definition, but then you are a very simple human.

You got the human part right. Maybe try and be one yourself some time.

[Srevart Treb]

Yet you have flooded this thread with daily mail esq statements.

Never read that paper in my puff.

People are allowed to hold a different view, at least until your Islamic Overlords take over anyways.

[Srevart Treb]

You got the human part right. Maybe try and be one yourself some time.

Quality Patter and you are not the best of friends are they?

[Urban Gorilla]

Tbf to Treb he's talking far more sense than most of you on here.

[Jambomo]

People in Britain are more responsible for the war criminal Tony Blair and the crimes that the US & Britain committed, in our name, because we democratically elected these people into the positions of power they needed to commit these acts. What should we have done to stop them? Why have none of us publicly apologised for what they have done?

Which part of the Muslim world actually elected these guys? nobody. Is any muslim state giving ISIS goverment funding to allow them to Bomb France? No, they steal oil to fund themselves. The only link the average muslim has with terrorism is that they share the same religion, its like saying all Liverpool fans are responible for Heysel because they are Liverpool fans.

[scotfree]

Quality Patter and you are not the best of friends are they?

Brains and you are not the best of friends are they.

[Srevart Treb]

Brains and you are not the best of friends are they.

Original as well, you are some guy indeed.

[Jambomo]

Never read that paper in my puff.

People are allowed to hold a different view, at least until your Islamic Overlords take over anyways.

Sure people are allowed to hold a different view, but other people are free to question and challenge you on it. It tends to help if your view isn't also ill-informed bullshit.

[Srevart Treb]

Tbf to Treb he's talking far more sense than most of you on here.

I try, It seems having an opinion not in line with some leads to some very angry and confused individuals.

[Srevart Treb]

Sure people are allowed to hold a different view, but other people are free to question and challenge you on it. It tends to help if your view isn't also ill-informed bullshit.

Ill-informed bullshit???,

Okay, what benefits does Islam in all its forms bring to Western society?.

[Jambomo]

Ill-informed bullshit???,

Okay, what benefits does Islam in all its forms bring to Western society?.

Why should Islam benefit us? Things don't exist in the world soley for the benefit of the Western countries. That said many Islamic countries they have brought us some cracking food and some excellent holiday destinations.

I'm athiest myself but I have no issues with people having a religion if it brings them happiness and comfort.

[welshbairn]

Ill-informed bullshit???,

Okay, what benefits does Christianity in all its forms bring to Western society?.

?

[scotfree]

Ill-informed bullshit???,

Okay, what benefits does Islam in all its forms bring to Western society?.

Just a few you mess...

1. Surgery

Around the year 1,000, the celebrated doctor Al Zahrawipublished a 1,500 page illustrated encyclopedia of surgery that was used in Europe as a medical reference for the next 500 years. Among his many inventions, Zahrawi discovered the use of dissolving cat gut to stitch wounds -- beforehand a second surgery had to be performed to remove sutures. He also reportedly performed the first caesarean operation and created the first pair of forceps.

2. Coffee

Now the Western world's drink du jour, coffee was first brewed in Yemen around the 9th century. In its earliest days, coffee helped Sufis stay up during late nights of devotion. Later brought to Cairo by a group of students, the coffee buzz soon caught on around the empire. By the 13th century it reached Turkey, but not until the 16th century did the beans start boiling in Europe, brought to Italy by a Venetian trader.

3. Flying machine

"Abbas ibn Firnas was the first person to make a real attempt to construct a flying machine and fly," said Hassani. In the 9th century he designed a winged apparatus, roughly resembling a bird costume. In his most famous trial near Cordoba in Spain, Firnas flew upward for a few moments, before falling to the ground and partially breaking his back. His designs would undoubtedly have been an inspiration for famed Italian artist and inventor Leonardo da Vinci's hundreds of years later, said Hassani.

4. University

In 859 a young princess named Fatima al-Firhi founded the first degree-granting university in Fez, Morocco. Her sister Miriam founded an adjacent mosque and together the complex became the al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University. Still operating almost 1,200 years later, Hassani says he hopes the center will remind people that learning is at the core of the Islamic tradition and that the story of the al-Firhi sisters will inspire young Muslim women around the world today.

5. Algebra

The word algebra comes from the title of a Persian mathematician's famous 9th century treatise "Kitab al-Jabr Wa l-Mugabala" which translates roughly as "The Book of Reasoning and Balancing." Built on the roots of Greek and Hindu systems, the new algebraic order was a unifying system for rational numbers, irrational numbers and geometrical magnitudes. The same mathematician, Al-Khwarizmi, was also the first to introduce the concept of raising a number to a power.

6. Optics

"Many of the most important advances in the study of optics come from the Muslim world," says Hassani. Around the year 1000 Ibn al-Haitham proved that humans see objects by light reflecting off of them and entering the eye, dismissing Euclid and Ptolemy's theories that light was emitted from the eye itself. This great Muslim physicist also discovered the camera obscura phenomenon, which explains how the eye sees images upright due to the connection between the optic nerve and the brain.

7. Music

Muslim musicians have had a profound impact on Europe, dating back to Charlemagne tried to compete with the music of Baghdad and Cordoba, according to Hassani. Among many instruments that arrived in Europe through the Middle East are the lute and the rahab, an ancestor of the violin. Modern musical scales are also said to derive from the Arabic alphabet.

8. Toothbrush

According to Hassani, the Prophet Mohammed popularized the use of the first toothbrush in around 600. Using a twig from the Meswak tree, he cleaned his teeth and freshened his breath. Substances similar to Meswak are used in modern toothpaste.

9. The crank

Many of the basics of modern automatics were first put to use in the Muslim world, including the revolutionary crank-connecting rod system. By converting rotary motion to linear motion, the crank enables the lifting of heavy objects with relative ease. This technology, discovered by Al-Jazari in the 12th century, exploded across the globe, leading to everything from the bicycle to the internal combustion engine.

10. Hospitals

"Hospitals as we know them today, with wards and teaching centers, come from 9th century Egypt," explained Hassani. The first such medical center was the Ahmad ibn Tulun Hospital, founded in 872 in Cairo. Tulun hospital provided free care for anyone who needed it -- a policy based on the Muslim tradition of caring for all who are sick. From Cairo, such hospitals spread around the Muslim world.

[Sergeant Wilson]

By pointing out that we do not live in a democracy

We know, you live in your Maw's bit.

[Srevart Treb]

Why should Islam benefit us? Things don't exist in the world soley for the benefit of the Western countries. That said many Islamic countries they have brought us some cracking food and some excellent holiday destinations.

I'm athiest myself but I have no issues with people having a religion if it brings them happiness and comfort.

I see so holiday destinations and some intresting food.

Happiness and Comfort for some is what religions bring, abject misery for others.

[forever_blue]

Just a few you mess...

1. Surgery

Around the year 1,000, the celebrated doctor Al Zahrawipublished a 1,500 page illustrated encyclopedia of surgery that was used in Europe as a medical reference for the next 500 years. Among his many inventions, Zahrawi discovered the use of dissolving cat gut to stitch wounds -- beforehand a second surgery had to be performed to remove sutures. He also reportedly performed the first caesarean operation and created the first pair of forceps.

2. Coffee

Now the Western world's drink du jour, coffee was first brewed in Yemen around the 9th century. In its earliest days, coffee helped Sufis stay up during late nights of devotion. Later brought to Cairo by a group of students, the coffee buzz soon caught on around the empire. By the 13th century it reached Turkey, but not until the 16th century did the beans start boiling in Europe, brought to Italy by a Venetian trader.

3. Flying machine

"Abbas ibn Firnas was the first person to make a real attempt to construct a flying machine and fly," said Hassani. In the 9th century he designed a winged apparatus, roughly resembling a bird costume. In his most famous trial near Cordoba in Spain, Firnas flew upward for a few moments, before falling to the ground and partially breaking his back. His designs would undoubtedly have been an inspiration for famed Italian artist and inventor Leonardo da Vinci's hundreds of years later, said Hassani.

4. University

In 859 a young princess named Fatima al-Firhi founded the first degree-granting university in Fez, Morocco. Her sister Miriam founded an adjacent mosque and together the complex became the al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University. Still operating almost 1,200 years later, Hassani says he hopes the center will remind people that learning is at the core of the Islamic tradition and that the story of the al-Firhi sisters will inspire young Muslim women around the world today.

5. Algebra

The word algebra comes from the title of a Persian mathematician's famous 9th century treatise "Kitab al-Jabr Wa l-Mugabala" which translates roughly as "The Book of Reasoning and Balancing." Built on the roots of Greek and Hindu systems, the new algebraic order was a unifying system for rational numbers, irrational numbers and geometrical magnitudes. The same mathematician, Al-Khwarizmi, was also the first to introduce the concept of raising a number to a power.

6. Optics

"Many of the most important advances in the study of optics come from the Muslim world," says Hassani. Around the year 1000 Ibn al-Haitham proved that humans see objects by light reflecting off of them and entering the eye, dismissing Euclid and Ptolemy's theories that light was emitted from the eye itself. This great Muslim physicist also discovered the camera obscura phenomenon, which explains how the eye sees images upright due to the connection between the optic nerve and the brain.

7. Music

Muslim musicians have had a profound impact on Europe, dating back to Charlemagne tried to compete with the music of Baghdad and Cordoba, according to Hassani. Among many instruments that arrived in Europe through the Middle East are the lute and the rahab, an ancestor of the violin. Modern musical scales are also said to derive from the Arabic alphabet.

8. Toothbrush

According to Hassani, the Prophet Mohammed popularized the use of the first toothbrush in around 600. Using a twig from the Meswak tree, he cleaned his teeth and freshened his breath. Substances similar to Meswak are used in modern toothpaste.

9. The crank

Many of the basics of modern automatics were first put to use in the Muslim world, including the revolutionary crank-connecting rod system. By converting rotary motion to linear motion, the crank enables the lifting of heavy objects with relative ease. This technology, discovered by Al-Jazari in the 12th century, exploded across the globe, leading to everything from the bicycle to the internal combustion engine.

10. Hospitals

"Hospitals as we know them today, with wards and teaching centers, come from 9th century Egypt," explained Hassani. The first such medical center was the Ahmad ibn Tulun Hospital, founded in 872 in Cairo. Tulun hospital provided free care for anyone who needed it -- a policy based on the Muslim tradition of caring for all who are sick. From Cairo, such hospitals spread around the Muslim world.

To be fair algebra terrorised the f**k out of me throughout school , the sneaky b*****ds

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Saw this on the BBC earlier and thought that one of the policeman had turn up for the raid in a jumper with a pigeon on it.

#hipstercop