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Kilmarnock v Rangers, for the right to face Dumbarton (or Dundee)


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Waggy-1872, on 11 Feb 2016 - 13:54, said:

That's just childish. Every away fans are kept behind at Ibrox.

Yup. Because your thugs simply can't be trusted. Need to keep people safe. At least they do THAT much. Because everyone knows they do f**k all to help inside the stadium.

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You seem like quite an angry chap Waggy. Don't worry though, once your pubes grow in and your voice drops, the mood swings calm down a bit. ;)
Where have i shown any anger? You clearly want to keep this conversation going between us two, are you lonely, mate?
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Statement just issued by the SLO. Rangers sold out both the Chadwick and the Moffatt and have requested more tickets. Following consultation with supporters groups, the board have decided not to give Rangers any tickets in the main stand.

Hopefully the Killie support fill our sections as much as possible!

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Statement just issued by the SLO. Rangers sold out both the Chadwick and the Moffatt and have requested more tickets. Following consultation with supporters groups, the board have decided not to give Rangers any tickets in the main stand.

Hopefully the Killie support fill our sections as much as possible!

Some bears will moan aboot this but at the end of the day it's killies decision.

The bears will end up in there anyway, hopefully they follow my finr example and keep it low key.

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Some bears will moan aboot this but at the end of the day it's killies decision.

The bears will end up in there anyway, hopefully they follow my finr example and keep it low key.

It's fair enough if they can sell all the seats, i doubt they'll sell 10 thousand though.

Like you said though, the bears will be in the home end anyway.

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Some bears will moan aboot this but at the end of the day it's killies decision.

The bears will end up in there anyway, hopefully they follow my finr example and keep it low key.

It's fair enough if they can sell all the seats, i doubt they'll sell 10 thousand though. Like you said though, the bears will be in the home end anyway.

The Killie sales are going very well too apparently, we won't sell out but there will probably be enough there to justify not selling tickets in the main stand. Hopefully we do enough to keep you all quiet and it won't matter where you are sitting.

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It's fair enough if they can sell all the seats, i doubt they'll sell 10 thousand though.

Like you said though, the bears will be in the home end anyway.

By giving more tickets to Rangers they would've kept a stricter control over where away fans were seated but at the end of day it is their decision.

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Exactly this. It's just stupidness.

Why is it of any concern to someone that'll be watching the game via the BBC text updates?

Either way, this simply is Killie standing up for their fans. Rangers have been offered a more than adequate amount of tickets for the game, and now they're sold out then tough titty.

I'm led to believe that there will be a much higher police presence at the game, and searches will take place before entering the stadium at all points. Basically put, you'll not get in if you've a Rangers scarf in your pocket e.g. and the stewarding company have been advised to point out any obvious Rangers fans in the home end (i.e. celebrating a Rangers goal, singing along with Rangers sons etc) to the police who will remove them.

Basically put, Jim Mann wants to prove a point to home fans and a robust police presence should do that.

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Why is it of any concern to someone that'll be watching the game via the BBC text updates?

Either way, this simply is Killie standing up for their fans. Rangers have been offered a more than adequate amount of tickets for the game, and now they're sold out then tough titty.

I'm led to believe that there will be a much higher police presence at the game, and searches will take place before entering the stadium at all points. Basically put, you'll not get in if you've a Rangers scarf in your pocket e.g. and the stewarding company have been advised to point out any obvious Rangers fans in the home end (i.e. celebrating a Rangers goal, singing along with Rangers sons etc) to the police who will remove them.

Basically put, Jim Mann wants to prove a point to home fans and a robust police presence should do that.

They'll have to escort a lot of away fans from the home end then. All the trouble of doing that when you could simply cut off a part for them, hideous.
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They'll have to escort a lot of away fans from the home end then. All the trouble of doing that when you could simply cut off a part for them, hideous.

But where does it stop?

Considering Rangers have sold out the Moffat and Chadwick stands with five full days to go before the match, do you really think the circa 1000 seater section in the Frank Beattie stand would be enough? The likelihood is Rangers would sell that in a day, and then we're left in the same situation again. Given that there's nowhere else in the stadium that can be securely segregated, what can Kilmarnock do?

There's a limit of what a club of Killie's size can sell to away fans for what is an equally meaningful game for both sides. I've seen Rangers fans use Kilmarnock giving Celtic the East Stand in 2012 as a reason why we should do the same for them, but the two situations are completely different. For one, the game was as close to meaningless for Kilmarnock as can be. Celtic stood a chance of winning the title, and Kilmarnock's big day (see my sig :wub:) had already been and gone that season. A loss for Killie that day meant little or nothing; a win for Celtic meant the title.

Fast-forward to this coming Tuesday, and a victory for either side sets up a winnable home tie to guarantee progression to a Scottish Cup semi-final at Hampden. This game, as I mentioned before, is as big for both sides. Giving away any more tickets would be seen as a sign of lying down, especially when home sales are still going so well. If Rangers fans want to buy tickets for the home end, sit quietly and don't celebrate if/when Rangers score then there's zero anyone can do about it. If some fans want to come in with blue, white and red scarves on; sing about King Billy; and celebrate when Waghorn gets a penalty then they should expect to be escorted from the stand. That's only fair.

We already stand to make a tidy sum from the game as it is, but selling any more seats to away fans wouldn't be worth it in the long-run. I think the majority of fans are okay with Rangers getting two stands, and provided the game is policed properly and the away support kept in at full-time, it may mean that lapsed fans (or more pertinently, fans that no longer attend home games against either side of the Old Firm) may be enticed back in the future.

Long after the Rangers fans have disappeared home, the broken seats have been replaced, the urine and broken glass has been cleaned up from the surrounding streets and the money made has been spent - we as a club will still have a fanbase to consider.

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