Granny Danger Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: A crook at the very heart of the expenses scandal. Every new MP (of whatever party) was advised to visit him to be told the fiddles they could get away with. He helped people get paid for mortgages that didn't exist for example. In return he called in "favours" when he needed them, which is how he got the gig as Speaker and why, even when he was forced to resign in disgrace, he got a seat in the Lords. Most of what was rotten in Westminster flowed through him. Reading the shite coming out of the politicians today you would think he was a working class giant of parliamentary democracy. He was no such thing, he was a fucking disgrace. Well said. He was an absolute c**t and the epitome of all that is/was wrong with working class guys who may have started off challenging the system but very quickly sold out to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: A crook at the very heart of the expenses scandal. Every new MP (of whatever party) was advised to visit him to be told the fiddles they could get away with. He helped people get paid for mortgages that didn't exist for example. In return he called in "favours" when he needed them, which is how he got the gig as Speaker and why, even when he was forced to resign in disgrace, he got a seat in the Lords. Most of what was rotten in Westminster flowed through him. Reading the shite coming out of the politicians today you would think he was a working class giant of parliamentary democracy. He was no such thing, he was a fucking disgrace. 1 hour ago, Glenconner said: Started out as a minor trade union official then became a Glasgow councillor. Richard Buchanan MP for the then Glasgow Springburn called it quits in 1979 and Michael Martin got the gig. Basically the easiest job in the world. Safe seat in a safe area. He saw off the local Militant which was 3 people, one of which went on to be a real zany character who ending owning the farm next to that one eyed BNP leader. Donald Trump couldn't have helped Springburn, the work went and the population collapsed and nobody in Government really gave an eff. The area was a real disaster zone. The list of things lost even after the 1980s when he was MP would fill a couple of pages. Luckily he got out, all be it through a scandal before the constitutional question took off. Ended up in House of Lords. Total street wise careerist of the first order. Btw, he had zero connection to the Gorbals which said a lot about the loony right in the Tory Party. Remember him being dodgy but that's quite the obituary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Well said. He was an absolute c**t and the epitome of all that is/was wrong with working class guys who may have started off challenging the system but very quickly sold out to it. I know your long association with the labour party and bow to your greater knowledge, but every single labour party councillor I have known in Clackmannanshire, has used it to further themselves, line their pockets and look after their cronies, nothing to do with challenging any system, just buying a ticket for the gravy train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Savage Henry said: Did we not already know this? Am I just imagining things, or was this not "revealed" several months ago as part of the Papadopoulos reporting? It's hard to keep up with all the Russian bots and useful idiots being exposed almost daily so I'm not sure if Corbyn has been accused of this recently. There was this though, also from the Times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Rudd gone, finally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 About bloody time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Fucking deport her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: Rudd gone, finally. Announced on bbc news at 10pm as breaking news aired a puff piece about her being out of the loop minutes later... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) Now puts May in the firing line for Windrush scandal. Edited April 29, 2018 by Jute 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jute said: Now puts May in the firing line for Windrush scandle. Is this a new range of Yankee Candles? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 May stayed this, the c**t needs to take responsibility 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Zen Archer said: Is this a new range of Yankee Candles? b*****d was just coming on to correct that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Granny Danger Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 Bye Amber... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 The question now is whether this is enough to kill the story. It shouldn't be as long as people are still being detained, sacked and denied hospital treatment as a result of a callous and vindictive government, but May now has no human shield. If this remains headline news for another week or so, we're surely going to get a real focus on the fact that May was the Home Secretary responsible for the vast majority of this with no one else to deflect the blame to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Nice of BBC this morning to let us know what the main political parties think of Rudd’s depqrture by showing tweets from a Tory, Labour and erm....Nigel Farage. They just cannot fucking help themselves can they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 How many of May’s original Cabinet are left? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Frightening to think that in the event of Labour winning the next election this nightmare could be Home Secretary : https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6173241/diane-abbott-repeatedly-refuses-to-say-what-should-happen-to-illegal-migrants-in-car-crash-interview-with-piers-morgan/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Javid new home sec. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 How many of May’s original Cabinet are left? 5 gone .....so far. Under normal circumstances Boris would be away. But May is weak and feeble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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