The DA Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I've no idea. He's spent around 1.2 million in transfer fees. Rangers wage budget has went down by 30%. All things factored. he's about broke even in player costs. Commercial planning, Rangers-style. Liquidation 2, coming to an Ibrox near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Yes, yes they did, thus making Houstie a far more deserving candidate. I'm glad we agree. Hold on... Before you kiss your medal... What's Rangers wage bill? What's Hearts? What's Hibs? What's Aberdeen? What's Dundee Utd's? Let's get our facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Commercial planning, Rangers-style. Liquidation 2, coming to an Ibrox near you. As a shareholder, unlike yourself. It's not even close. Our financials keep improving. Worry about your club..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hold on... Before you kiss your medal... What's Rangers wage bill? What's Hearts? What's Hibs? What's Aberdeen? What's Dundee Utd's? Let's get our facts straight. Why do you do this? It's ever so silly. I don't know what those clubs spend. I do know however that it's been utterly established that ever since the rebirth, Rangers, according to published accounts, have spent more on staff than anyone in the country apart from Celtic. That's not something that anyone disputes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Why do you do this? It's ever so silly. I don't know what those clubs spend. I do know however that it's been utterly established that ever since the rebirth, Rangers, according to published accounts, have spent more on staff than anyone in the country apart from Celtic. That's not something that anyone disputes. I do it as I seriously question whether Rangers paid the second highest wages to their football squad in the Scottish leagues this season. Is that hard to comprehend? The past means nothing....if you could prove it, I'd be grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Share holder ? Fool me once and all that. I'm pretty fed up with your personal stuff. By all means reveal yourself if you think you know me. On you go. Otherwise you're going on ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I do it as I seriously question whether Rangers paid the second highest wages to their football squad in the Scottish leagues this season. Is that hard to comprehend? The past means nothing....if you could prove it, I'd be grateful. We're back into the same territory as when you unilaterally claimed that all the small debts had been settled. You just talk rubbish you can't support, then stick with it. It's daft and very visible. You'd look better if you didn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'm pretty fed up with your personal stuff. By all means reveal yourself if you think you know me. On you go. Otherwise you're going on ignore. Toys well and truly out the pram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 We're back into the same territory as when you unilaterally claimed that all the small debts had been settled. You just talk rubbish you can't support, then stick with it. It's daft and very visible. You'd look better if you didn't do it. Monkey....much as you seem to hate Rangers.....I don't hate you. I'd hope you'd be aware....I don't really care how I look on an online forum. I'm part of (or was) the RFF (soon to be Club 1872) which sought to pay back all those small debtors. I'm unaware who is outstanding....if any. You can perhaps educate me. I know of none. As to wage bills....as i said, I think Rangers wage bill vs say.......Hibs....ain't so far apart. No-one can say as both clubs have not released final accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Toys well and truly out the pram. I'm actually feeling really good right now. I like a proper debate rather than mud-slinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hold on... Before you kiss your medal... What's Rangers wage bill? What's Hearts? What's Hibs? What's Aberdeen? What's Dundee Utd's? Let's get our facts straight. The information's there if you want to look for it. The latest published figures we have for most companies are to June 2015. 1. Rangers spent 13.3M on wages of which 6.2M was on 'the first team'. Directors' salaries and emoluments were well under 1M! 2. United spent 3.9M on wages (inc 110K to TBS & co) but there's no breakdown of how much of the remaining 3.8M went on the first team and how much to the reserves, admin staff etc. but let's say around two-thirds of it. 2.5M. 3. Aberdeen spent 6.6M on wages with 400K going to directors. Let's assume the same two-thirds. 4.1M on the first team. Best case, in 2014/15, Rangers spent at least twice what United did and 50% more than Aberdeen. This season, United probably spent more than last, Aberdeen much the same and Rangers might have spent less. But your budget still comfortably outstrips either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Ouch! Facts, what the f**k are they doing in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 The information's there if you want to look for it. The latest published figures we have for most companies are to June 2015. 1. Rangers spent 13.3M on wages of which 6.2M was on 'the first team'. Directors' salaries and emoluments were well under 1M! 2. United spent 3.9M on wages (inc 110K to TBS & co) but there's no breakdown of how much of the remaining 3.8M went on the first team and how much to the reserves, admin staff etc. but let's say around two-thirds of it. 2.5M. 3. Aberdeen spent 6.6M on wages with 400K going to directors. Let's assume the same two-thirds. 4.1M on the first team. Best case, in 2014/15, Rangers spent at least twice what United did and 50% more than Aberdeen. This season, United probably spent more than last, Aberdeen much the same and Rangers might have spent less. But your budget still comfortably outstrips either. I don't disagree with that all. Since then Rangers reduced their first team squad to 5 players and rebuilt. I fully agree the wages previous were obscene. All Rangers fans do. I'm talking about this season where Rangers had a squad of 16. 6 free transfers. Holt at £65K. We were mocked for having no money. Yet also seemingly mocked for having the 2nd biggest budget in Scotland. Now we're mocked for over-spending. Which is it? I mean seriously.... Have we no money? Are we looking for cheapskates? Or are we spending too much? We can't be guilty of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Them all.. Laughing stock fc as Shull would put. I understand why you want to come on this thread and throw bullshit at Rangers as it makes you feel better about you and your club. I get that. I even understand why you find it difficult when a supporter of that club takes on your points and surprises you in doing so. What I don't understand is you having a quick troll and then saying "win". Is that all you're about? Does having a wee jibe about Rangers on an internet forum then going "I win" make you feel a better man? It shouldn't you know. But if it does, I pity you. I'm happy to debate anything on Rangers. You don't like that. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 It is not ironic to say that United have failed to the point being a laughing stock this season, while the team I support have provided the exact opposite. No, Rangers will always be a laughing stock, such arrogance, such a sense of entitlement, such a waste of money, such hatred brought to the game and then your club went bust. That's off the scale compared to a mere setback like relegation. Utd will bounce back its happened to them before, its too late to save Rangers, they only exist now as an asset to be passed around from one crooked owner to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I don't disagree with that all. Since then Rangers reduced their first team squad to 5 players and rebuilt. I fully agree the wages previous were obscene. All Rangers fans do. I'm talking about this season where Rangers had a squad of 16. 6 free transfers. Holt at £65K. We were mocked for having no money. Yet also seemingly mocked for having the 2nd biggest budget in Scotland. Now we're mocked for over-spending. Which is it? I mean seriously.... Have we no money? Are we looking for cheapskates? Or are we spending too much? We can't be guilty of all. Are you seriously suggesting that Rangers, of all clubs, can't be guilty simultaneously, of having no money, but spending too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Are you seriously suggesting that Rangers, of all clubs, can't be guilty simultaneously, of having no money, but spending too much? I'm suggesting Rangers can afford a wage bill half of Celtic now. Maybe more if they win the Cup. Based on 49,000 season ticket holders and SPl revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 No, Rangers will always be a laughing stock, such arrogance, such a sense of entitlement, such a waste of money, such hatred brought to the game and then your club went bust. That's off the scale compared to a mere setback like relegation. Utd will bounce back its happened to them before, its too late to save Rangers, they only exist now as an asset to be passed around from one crooked owner to another. If that makes you feel better so be it. If you really feel so strongly, email the SFA and tell them you know better. Enjoy the championship...there's some fun grounds to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 If that makes you feel better so be it. If you really feel so strongly, email the SFA and tell them you know better. Enjoy the championship...there's some fun grounds to be had. My bad, I missed out this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 My bad, I missed out this That's what happens when you've nothing left to say. You become Jeremy Clarkson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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