MJC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Speaking of bad influences at the club and in the dressing room, I've no doubt that McDonald fell into that category, but so did McFadden I think. He was never a team player and whenever he played, especially in his third or fourth return, he always seemed to take centre stage for some reason, even though he was well over the hill by that time. That Scottish Cup tie against Cove Rangers when he came on as a sub and the rest of the team chucked it to try and get him a goal, which he didn't, still annoys me. I also don't think he was well received in his role as player/assistant manager either, but so many at the club were and still are utterly blind to him. Again, Robinson did the right thing by binning him in 2017. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRoss Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I find it difficult to call into question Scott McDonald's contributions in a Motherwell shirt. From his emergence under Terry Butcher, his contributions to dragging us out of trouble under Maurice Malpas, the scenes of Skippy Sunday and then scoring again when Celtic visited on the opening day of the following season. He was a massive player for us in his first spell. On rejoining us he played a crucial role in surviving the play-off's and then was often quoted as a huge influence on Louis Moult's success at the club. There were rumours he threw the toys out of the pram when he was denied a move back to Sydney ahead of Mark McGhee's meltdown at Ibrox, he later said McDonald was injured as he'd been 'carrying the rest of the team', but even then he still knuckled down and helped the team somehow finish 9th. Sure he was offside about 90% of the time, kicked up about missing his 'dream move' to Rangers before joining Celtic, had an unfortunate knack of scoring against us with them and kept us waiting for the duration of pre-season on multiple occasions, meaning it took him a few extra months to actually be match fit, but there were a lot more positives than there were negatives. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 And his haircut in the playoff games was absolute FIRE. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Wound up every opposition fanbase in the country too. I love Scott Mcdonald. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 McDonald was one of those players who you love if he's in your team but despise if he's playing against you. A real quality player who bagged us plenty of crucial goals and gave me one of my all time favourite days following Motherwell in 2005. He was a defenders nightmare as he was capable of getting something out of nothing, be that a goal or a foul. There were times though I found him frustrating when he was with us, as he was prone to throw a strop if he didn't get the service or pass he wanted and then spend the rest of the game running about with his face tripping him before getting subbed and storming straight up the tunnel. I was mightily pissed off when he openly spoke of his disappointment at missing out on a move to Rangers whilst we were in the middle of a relegation fight and obviously I hated him when he played for Celtic and inevitably scored against us every time he played us. One thing that did piss me off when he first joined was how so many Well fans simply called him 'Dougie' due to his height and build similarities to Dougie Arnott, and that seemed to stick with him for a good while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellinwigan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, MJC said: McDonald was one of those players who you love if he's in your team but despise if he's playing against you. A real quality player who bagged us plenty of crucial goals and gave me one of my all time favourite days following Motherwell in 2005. He was a defenders nightmare as he was capable of getting something out of nothing, be that a goal or a foul. There were times though I found him frustrating when he was with us, as he was prone to throw a strop if he didn't get the service or pass he wanted and then spend the rest of the game running about with his face tripping him before getting subbed and storming straight up the tunnel. I was mightily pissed off when he openly spoke of his disappointment at missing out on a move to Rangers whilst we were in the middle of a relegation fight and obviously I hated him when he played for Celtic and inevitably scored against us every time he played us. One thing that did piss me off when he first joined was how so many Well fans simply called him 'Dougie' due to his height and build similarities to Dougie Arnott, and that seemed to stick with him for a good while. Not got a lot of bad things to say about McDonald either always liked him. But wasn't that pleased when he got himself sent off at East End Park in the infamous Malpas (Donald Duck) game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 He did the same when we lost at Saint Mirren in 2015 to condemn us to the playoffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, MJC said: One thing that did piss me off when he first joined was how so many Well fans simply called him 'Dougie' due to his height and build similarities to Dougie Arnott, and that seemed to stick with him for a good while. I completely forgot that used to be a thing. Still, good of the 'Well fans to move onto something a bit more original like 'Skippy'. Edited March 13, 2019 by Desp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Did folk go through a phase of calling McGhee "Noah" because the "P" fell off the side of Fir Park? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, MJC said: He did the same when we lost at Saint Mirren in 2015 to condemn us to the playoffs. Tbf, we'd need to have scored about 6 to have stayed out of the playoffs, wouldn't we? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Desp said: I completely forgot that used to be a thing. Still, good of the 'Well fans to move onto something a bit more original like 'Skippy'. Indeed, though I was just glad that 'Dougie' petered out, as it was just daft especially as Dougie Arnott was a club legend. Some fans even used to chant 'Doou-gaay .. Doou-gaay' at McDonald. 22 minutes ago, nsr said: Did folk go through a phase of calling McGhee "Noah" because the "P" fell off the side of Fir Park? Rings a bell certainly. Also loved how Jim Gannon quickly acquired 'Jimbo' after ahout two weeks and nobody knew who he was, but already had 'Jimbo' as the Messiah, and we all know how that turned out. Then we had Brown and Knox who were 'Jack and Victor' until they left for Aberdeen when they just became 'they two auld c***s'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRoss Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: Tbf, we'd need to have scored about 6 to have stayed out of the playoffs, wouldn't we? Yeah, results went against us that day - though it didn't help we managed to lose 3-2 to the side already relegated - losing two goals in the final four minutes. Some laugh when you consider what proceeded being consigned to the play-off's mind you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: Tbf, we'd need to have scored about 6 to have stayed out of the playoffs, wouldn't we? That sounds about right but if my memory serves me correctly, had he not won his subsequent appeal then he would have missed the first leg of the playoff, which would have been potentially disastrous for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, AndyRoss said: Some laugh when you consider what proceeded being consigned to the play-off's mind you. Speak for yourself, I was greetin' for most of that season. That was properly grim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRoss Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I reckon I'd accept another 10 seasons like that if they always ended with two games like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Desp said: Speak for yourself, I was greetin' for most of that season. That was properly grim. That season was abject misery. Football that was eye-bleedingly bad to watch. But we closed it off by spending 180 minutes ragdolling Rangers and tbh I wouldn't change it for the world. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 That season was a strange one to say the least. From Josh Law scoring 2 against Stjarnan to look like a goal-machine (before Lasley then conceded about 6 penalties) and then pumping Rangers in the play-off. Then you've got the Anthony Straker experience to go along with it. What a time to be a 'Well fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, MJC said: That sounds about right but if my memory serves me correctly, had he not won his subsequent appeal then he would have missed the first leg of the playoff, which would have been potentially disastrous for us. Remains astonishing it was overturned, tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: That season was a strange one to say the least. From Josh Law scoring 2 against Stjarnan to look like a goal-machine (before Lasley then conceded about 6 penalties) and then pumping Rangers in the play-off. Then you've got the Anthony Straker experience to go along with it. What a time to be a 'Well fan. It certainly was a bizarre season and due the significant and hugely enjoyable nature of the playoffs it is often overlooked just how grim it was. From the non-pre-season and the infamous lads jolly to Portugal and the 'footgolf' which was described as a team building exercise, to the utter shambles that was the Stjarnan tie that set the tone for the season. Then we had the demise of Stuart McCall, the appointment of Baraclough and his army of signings including Straker and Nathan Thomas and that awful run from the New Year 0-5 at NDP to late February when it looked for all the world we were going straight down, then a bit of a mini revival before we ended up in the playoffs. I don't think I speak just for myself here when I say that I could not foresee any scenario whatsoever where we would beat Rangers and stay up, let alone how we ended up actually doing it. Those two games have to be the most important and significant victories for us in the last decade and only a Cup win would have eclipsed them in that regard. Edited March 13, 2019 by MJC 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRoss Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 37 minutes ago, MJC said: I don't think I speak just for myself here when I say that I could not foresee any scenario whatsoever where we would beat Rangers and stay up, let alone how we ended up actually doing it. Those two games have to be the most important and significant victories for us in the last decade and only a Cup win would have eclipsed them in that regard. I think half-time at Ibrox, 2-0 up is the happiest I've ever seen some Motherwell fans. Unbridled joy when it was least expected. Still felt we could mess it up three days later, we didn't though... 'We were a class above them' 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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