lanky_ffc Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Watford have been unrecognisable from the team that beat Man Utd. Absolutely rank performance from them. What Burnley lack in quality, they make up for in work ethic. They've wanted it far more tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Mrs Carragher must be fuming ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Rab B Nesbit said: Sounds like a part timer lacking away loyalty points ... Oh absolutely. I don't have a season ticket as I only get to maybe 10-12 games a season so now we're in the PL with their bizarre 3000 away ticket cap I've got no chance. Boro took over 7000 away to Blackburn last year in The Championship never mind now with a 3K cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 29 minutes ago, 8MileBU said: Why is there a 3000 limit on away supports in the PL? Is this what the Police deemed 'manageable' or something? No idea but it's a complete farce in my opinion. It's fine for most teams as home ends will sell anyway, but you could essentially have a situation where a home club are losing out on lots of cash on a weekly basis because the PL don't let them sell tickets when there's huge demand. So away fans miss out and the home club miss out on the cash. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I don't think there is a 3k cap in the Premier. That's the minimum that teams have to give. It may be reduced further on police advice if there is potential for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Bully Di Villa said: I don't think there is a 3k cap in the Premier. That's the minimum that teams have to give. It may be reduced further on police advice if there is potential for trouble. Nah, it is a maximum of 3,000, or if the home teams stadium is below 30,000, then its 10% of the home teams capacity. Explained below in the Gazette with a guide to each club. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/listed-away-allocations-boro-receive-11412272 Not entirely sure the reasoning behind it, but policing could be as good a guess as any. Could also be at the clubs behest seeing as they're all greedy fuckers and the maximum price for an away ticket is £30. Try and maximise their gate earnings by capping the number of cheaper seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: Could also be at the clubs behest seeing as they're all greedy fuckers and the maximum price for an away ticket is £30. And there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Sure we took about 6,000 to Burnley the other year so maybe clubs can choose to ignore the maximum if they like.I'm sure clubs were pretty much able to take as many as they liked to Wigan and Blackburn when they were up, for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Wasn't that maximum price only brought in recently though? Would explain why the cap was put in too. Can't have too many people paying something close to a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Yeah you may be right. Maximum price was agreed last year to be effective this. I remember much moaning that we'd end up paying more for away games now we've been relegated than we would've had we stayed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 3 hours ago, J_Stewart said: Nah, it is a maximum of 3,000, or if the home teams stadium is below 30,000, then its 10% of the home teams capacity. Explained below in the Gazette with a guide to each club. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/listed-away-allocations-boro-receive-11412272 Not entirely sure the reasoning behind it, but policing could be as good a guess as any. Could also be at the clubs behest seeing as they're all greedy fuckers and the maximum price for an away ticket is £30. Try and maximise their gate earnings by capping the number of cheaper seats. That's it there. Clubs like Blackburn (7200), Burnley & Leicester (4000) would usually sell more away tickets to help fill the ground ... now with the £30 cap many will reduce the away allocation to the minimum. Burnley used to give the whole of the stand behind the goal up but this season they have halved it and can sell tickets for £40 odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Bully Di Villa said: Yeah you may be right. Maximum price was agreed last year to be effective this. I remember much moaning that we'd end up paying more for away games now we've been relegated than we would've had we stayed up. Feel for you BDV x Did you hear it's only £20 at Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Think the cap was brought in this year along with the maximum ticket price. Absolute joke, as they could've just left it and clubs could offer whatever they wanted, rather than have it forced upon them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 9 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said: 30 pound for an away ticket however is great value for money however . Fans moaned for a long time about how expensive it was . Yeah that's great, but when it reduces the amount of tickets that clubs are even allowed to give out it kind of negates the effect of that. It's great for the few fans who get it, but for clubs who previously took 7000 or so fans to now have less than that actually allowed to attend is a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Feel for you BDV x Did you hear it's only £20 at Southampton [emoji14] I don't like Southampton anyway.Pissed off that Brighton has been moved to a Friday night and I have no leave left. Also Barnsley and Preston sound like excellent away days and one is midweek while the other is when I'm in London for the NFL [emoji22] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 18 hours ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Yeah that's great, but when it reduces the amount of tickets that clubs are even allowed to give out it kind of negates the effect of that. It's great for the few fans who get it, but for clubs who previously took 7000 or so fans to now have less than that actually allowed to attend is a farce. One of the downsides is a smaller allocation at a few grounds but for the regulars it's saving a lot of money. The likes of Arsenal and Spurs from over £60 down to £30. Also many clubs even bigger supported ones like Spurs, Newcastle and Villa haven't been taking the full allocations they were entitled to for years. Largely due to cost I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Rab B Nesbit said: One of the downsides is a smaller allocation at a few grounds but for the regulars it's saving a lot of money. The likes of Arsenal and Spurs from over £60 down to £30. Also many clubs even bigger supported ones like Spurs, Newcastle and Villa haven't been taking the full allocations they were entitled to for years. Largely due to cost I would imagine. But when you've got more than 3000 regulars, as many in the PL do, it's a saving for some and disappointment for the rest. Also, nobody is complaining about the cost reduction. There is absolutely no need to limit the amount a club is allowed to give out. Put in a minimum allocation, then the club themselves can choose what they want. I can't see why anyone thinks this is a good system right now, and it's annoying when people keep saying the above as if the ticket cap and allocation cap aren't mutually exclusive - you could easily have implemented the ticket cap without forcing clubs to lose business if they don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: But when you've got more than 3000 regulars, as many in the PL do, it's a saving for some and disappointment for the rest. Also, nobody is complaining about the cost reduction. There is absolutely no need to limit the amount a club is allowed to give out. Put in a minimum allocation, then the club themselves can choose what they want. I can't see why anyone thinks this is a good system right now, and it's annoying when people keep saying the above as if the ticket cap and allocation cap aren't mutually exclusive - you could easily have implemented the ticket cap without forcing clubs to lose business if they don't want to. Surely the clubs have to agree terms when it comes to their prices though. Which would mean that there's some negotiating to be done. I really don't buy it's a coincidence that these two things came hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Just now, Randy Giles said: Surely the clubs have to agree terms when it comes to their prices though. Which would mean that there's some negotiating to be done. I really don't buy it's a coincidence that these two things came hand in hand. I don't see why any club would agree to, or as you appear to be implying (apologies if you're not) suggest, a maximum number of tickets they can hand out. Clubs would've preferred to have no price cap or allocation cap, to continue ripping off away fans. So if the PL forced the ticket cap on them, it would make zero sense for them to then want an allocation cap, rather than just keeping it as is and allocating however many tickets they want to each week based on home and away demand. It just doesn't make any business sense whatsoever to me, so can only think that the PL has enforced it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 You don't see why clubs would want to reduce the number of cheaper tickets? The whole thing was a PR exercise and a way for the clubs to say "look at how nice we are" while continuing to fleece their own supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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