Mortar Bored Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Almost 4 years to the day since I went on a school battlefields trip to Belgium and France. Going to the likes of monuments such as Thiepval and Vimy Ridge and Tyne Cot cemetery really was an immensely sobering experience. Are you a teacher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 In futurama there's a joke where zapp brannigan defeats the killbots by knowing they had a set kill limit and sending wave after wave of bodies at the enemy until that limit was reached. I think that's actually somewhat analogous to the futility of WW1. I think France lost 15% of its population in that war. Pretty much a whole generation of men. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 The Great War channel has weekly updates of what happened in the war in that week. https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar Last weeks And this weeks Cover the build up to the Somme and the other major events around the war, mostly the Brusilov Offensive. The British Army had gone from being a small professional army built around colonial operations to being a mass participation army many times larger and with vastly more complex logistics tail (logistics is the real art of war, everything else is secondary but it almost never makes the flashy headlines). The Somme was intended to relieve pressure on Verdun and to employ Britain's first mass participation army of the modern era. The Bio of Hague would also be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Something I made up for an AV night at my camera club a couple of years ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maicoman Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 We all remember the recruiting poster with Kitchener pointing saying YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU I did not know until last week that he drowned at Orkney when his ship got torpedoed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Are you assuming this because he said it sobered him up? No, because I thought he was 45 years old. I'm possibly wrong, but.... If he was on a school trip 4 years ago, he's either. A. A teacher B. Too young to be a paid up conservative C. Joey Deacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 We all remember the recruiting poster with Kitchener pointing saying YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU I did not know until last week that he drowned at Orkney when his ship got torpedoed Bullshit, Lord Kitchener never died in Orkney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Kitchener_(calypsonian) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 The Somme gets most of the attention from a british point of view, but Verdun was even worse. The casualties involved in attempting to capture a shitey old series of forts were horrific, with estimates of up to and over a million men. I vaguely remember (probably badly) from school history that the Somme offensive was intended to try to relieve some of the pressure on the French at Verdun, so were suffering both horrific losses and the added bonus of large scale mutinies.The Germans end game at Verdun was to bleed France white,they were content losing men as long as the French lost more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Bullshit, Lord Kitchener never died in Orkney. Well, not in Orkney but in the sea off Orkney en route to Arkhangelsk in an armoured cruiser that evidently wasn't armoured enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Well, not in Orkney but in the sea off Orkney en route to Arkhangelsk in an armoured cruiser that evidently wasn't armoured enough. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Kitchener_(calypsonian) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Well, not in Orkney but in the sea off Orkney en route to Arkhangelsk in an armoured cruiser that evidently wasn't armoured enough. I'm obviously being facetious, and I'll admit, I never knew he met his demise that way. Sorry for making light of a terrible occurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 No, because I thought he was 45 years old. I'm possibly wrong, but.... If he was on a school trip 4 years ago, he's either. A. A teacher B. Too young to be a paid up conservative C. Joey Deacon Well, I plan on becoming a teacher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Well, I plan on becoming a teacher... Are you mental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 When I was in the Post office I used to deliver to a woman who's boyfriend had been killed in the battle. She never married after that. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Sawn-off over the counter was it?Only got three years as it was an imitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 It was a fall out between cousins ffs... Highly simplified rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank Mike Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 As horrible as this war was for the West and all the individuals involved, it's sometimes important to recognize certain folks as representatives for all those who died. The Battle of the Somme was especially terrible and the men from Ulster played an especially important role in that battle. I'm not sure if anybody else here listens to the Hardcore History podcast, but the series dealing with WW1 was incredible. The USA came later: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 The USA came later:Don't they always? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank Mike Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Don't they always? Once we found out that the Germans were gonna align with Mexico to attack the US southwest, we showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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