Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Hopefully they will implode. Post independence, it won't matter a fuck. Even if it happens pre-independence Labour are led by someone too stupid to take advantage, and the Tories will never get much above their current level of support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 In much the same way that UKIP ceased to exist once the UK voted to leave the EU. After independence, the SNP would continue to exist to ensure that it was not some watered down semi-independence. Can you name any country that gained independence where the leader of the ruling party then said: "Job done. My opponents can run the country now - I am away fishing." "You and an army 50,000 strong will march on Rome, and then simply give it back to the people" ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Well last time we were told that if we're out then we're out. So that shouldn't really be a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 "You and an army 50,000 strong will march on Rome, and then simply give it back to the people" ?? We will follow on.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 There have been threads on here previously where what the political party situation would look like in an independent Scotland were discussed. The posts made far more sense than some of the nonsense spouted on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: There have been threads on here previously where what the political party situation would look like in an independent Scotland were discussed. The posts made far more sense than some of the nonsense spouted on here. How old were these threads and are they relevant? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, kirkyblue2 said: How old were these threads and are they relevant? They were during the last referendum and didn't have as many unionist trolls so yes.....pretty relevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, AUFC90 said: They were during the last referendum and didn't have as many unionist trolls so yes.....pretty relevant. I take it you know I'm asking if they're relevant now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, kirkyblue2 said: I take it you know I'm asking if they're relevant now? Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, AUFC90 said: Yes. Is that yes you know the question, yes they are still relevant or yes we have no bananas? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 37 minutes ago, kirkyblue2 said: Is that yes you know the question, yes they are still relevant or yes we have no bananas? I don't think you understand how questions work. 2 hours ago, kirkyblue2 said: How old were these threads and are they relevant? This is a question. 1 hour ago, AUFC90 said: They were during the last referendum and didn't have as many unionist trolls so yes.....pretty relevant. This is an answer. 48 minutes ago, kirkyblue2 said: I take it you know I'm asking if they're relevant now? This another question. 44 minutes ago, AUFC90 said: Yes. And this is an answer. Of course the threads are still relevant, we are still not independent and have the same political parties, almost the same policies and apart from the newer breed of unionist trolls, basically the same posters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, AUFC90 said: Of course the threads are still relevant, we are still not independent and have the same political parties, almost the same policies and apart from the newer breed of unionist trolls, basically the same posters. I think you're missing the point, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then. Labour in Scotland are now in 3rd place and we are leaving the EU. If a week is a long time in politics then 2 and a half years is an age and in another 18 months who knows where we will be. Edited February 12, 2017 by kirkyblue2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 in another 18 months who knows where we will be. Independent hopefully. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, kirkyblue2 said: I think you're missing the point, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then. Labour in Scotland are now in 3rd place and we are leaving the EU. If a week is a long time in politics then 2 and a half years is an age and in another 18 months who knows where we will be. I'm not missing any point. Threads about what will happen to political parties after independence are relevant. We still have the same parties and independence hasn't happened. My view is the SNP will ride the crest of a wave for a couple of terms and then people will naturally start voting for parties more in tune with their politics and the SNP will become less and less powerful. I wouldn't vote for them after independence but right now I'll vote for them until it's achieved. I suspect there's a lot of people like that. It's something the more vocal SNP haters on the unionist side will never understand and it's pretty hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, K.T said: Independent FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, AUFC90 said: I'm not missing any point. Threads about what will happen to political parties after independence are relevant. We still have the same parties and independence hasn't happened. My view is the SNP will ride the crest of a wave for a couple of terms and then people will naturally start voting for parties more in tune with their politics and the SNP will become less and less powerful. I wouldn't vote for them after independence but right now I'll vote for them until it's achieved. I suspect there's a lot of people like that. It's something the more vocal SNP haters on the unionist side will never understand and it's pretty hilarious. Even SNP supporting friends don't always understand when I say that I look forward to voting for another partyat some point in the future. It's a foregone coclusion that the party will split sooner or later after the primary objective is acheived, and I'll end up voting for a left-wing/centre left successor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Even SNP supporting friends don't always understand when I say that I look forward to voting for another partyat some point in the future. It's a foregone coclusion that the party will split sooner or later after the primary objective is acheived, and I'll end up voting for a left-wing/centre left successor. I would hope for the emergence of a new centre right party. For the sake of political balance it is needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said: I would hope for the emergence of a new centre right party. For the sake of political balance it is needed. Agreed, but I won't be voting for them. However, an effective opposition would be nice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm fairly certain that a lot of SNP elected politicians disagree with each other on a broad range of things, once independence is achieved these divisions will come to the fore. I trust for the sake of the country it is done in a positive and collegiate way. Im sure there will be a bit of a power struggle over the SNP brand but the best option would be for it to be abandoned. Whatever the reality of Labour the perception for decades was that it was a left of centre party and Scots voted for that in their droves. I would like to think that left of centre values and policies will gain favour in an independent Scotland. Whatever else happens Toryism will never grow much past its recent popularity in the country. Thank fuck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm sure Jim Siillars is on record as saying he would like to vote Labour in an independent Scotland.I know he's become a bit of a rent a quote character but I bet he's not alone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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