LongTimeLurker Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I think May lost her marbles when the Speaker blocked a 3rd reading. She seemed to be almost getting the DUP and ERG on board, ... Meanwhile Sammy Wilson says: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47652775 ...Sammy Wilson said he believed the PM was trying to threaten Parliament. But he said it had not worked and his party would not back the deal if it remained unchanged... and while we are on the subject of Sammy Wilson here's a tune some of you might enjoy: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 12 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I think May lost her marbles when the Speaker blocked a 3rd reading. She seemed to be almost getting the DUP and ERG on board, with a few Labour, and then she fucked it by not saying "no problem, we'll just introduce a bill to set aside convention and have a 3rd reading anyway", but instead getting more bolshie with the remain inclined. The ERG realised there was now a real chance of a hard brexit so she won't get any votes from them, and after last night's speech she probably won't get any from Labour. It could be a bigger defeat than the first 2, unless everyone shits their pants because there's no clear way to avoid a hard brexit without it. Of course there is. There will be a longer extension given on the eve of no deal. It just won't happen. It would have to be requested. Who's going to do that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Unless May has decided she wants a hard brexit if Parliament has the effrontery to defeat her deal again. It wouldn't be easy to stop her. There's a revoke article 50 resolution that has been submitted to the speaker with cross-party support, which will be the last chance for sanity basically. Can't see Corbyn going for that, unfortunately. Think he'll cave and get his party to abstain so May's deal goes through assuming of course it even can be voted on again. We'll find out next week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 That fucking Nick Clegg is responsible for all this with his Fixed Terms Act. I've moaned about him before, but the Government would have gone months ago without it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 16 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I think May lost her marbles when the Speaker blocked a 3rd reading. She seemed to be almost getting the DUP and ERG on board, with a few Labour, and then she fucked it by not saying "no problem, we'll just introduce a bill to set aside convention and have a 3rd reading anyway", but instead getting more bolshie with the remain inclined. The ERG realised there was now a real chance of a hard brexit so she won't get any votes from them, and after last night's speech she probably won't get any from Labour. It could be a bigger defeat than the first 2, unless everyone shits their pants because there's no clear way to avoid a hard brexit without it. Of course there is. There will be a longer extension given on the eve of no deal. It just won't happen. I doubt it, there's more chance of the pope getting a penis extension, unless the mad woman's bill flies we're fecked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Fact is the so called parliamentarians have played right into the EU's hands. We need to get out of the shambles that is Westminster, the commons is the laughing stock of Europe with all that feckin donkey braying and hear hear's, a complete and utter joke. Lets get independence where our representatives behave respectably and not like drunken clowns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: There's a revoke article 50 resolution that has been submitted to the speaker with cross-party support, which will be the last chance for sanity basically. Can't see Corbyn going for that, unfortunately. Think he'll cave and get his party to abstain so May's deal goes through assuming of course it even can be voted on again. We'll find out next week. Nigel Farage's suggestion today was a straight up vote in the Commons between No Deal and Revoke. Either he's worried about losing his raison d'etre and MEP expenses if we leave, never mind the American lecture tours, or he's convinced No Deal would win. The majority of Tory MPs at least would probably be out of a job if they voted revoke, it's hard to call. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Nigel Farage's suggestion today was a straight up vote in the Commons between No Deal and Revoke. Either he's worried about losing his raison d'etre and MEP expenses if we leave, never mind the American lecture tours, or he's convinced No Deal would win. The majority of Tory MPs at least would probably be out of a job if they voted revoke, it's hard to call.Ever the optimist but I think Revoke would win. Tories + DUP = 323Everyone else = 315Even the Labour leave supporters would surely go revoke over no deal, plus your Dominic Grieve and Amber Rudd types 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Donathan said: Ever the optimist but I think Revoke would win. Tories + DUP = 323 Everyone else = 315 Even the Labour leave supporters would surely go revoke over no deal, plus your Dominic Grieve and Amber Rudd types Revoke would beat No Deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think the DUP might even switch to Revoke, no deal would hit them harder than anyone else, across the island, north and south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Military on standby. How the f**k did it get this far? (Rhetorical) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Goverment putting NDAs in place. I wonder what they have to hide? https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-hundreds-of-gagging-orders-taken-out-by-government-11671933 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 There's no way the House goes straight to revoke. It would split the Tory Party and cause a GE that Labour would win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 20/03/2019 at 13:36, Detournement said: Aaron Banks and Farage must have gotten to Macron somehow. Arron. Just for clarity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I think the DUP might even switch to Revoke, no deal would hit them harder than anyone else, across the island, north and south. If the numbers were close they would definitely be facing a major dilema. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 hours ago, harry94 said: They can be. We've probably pissed that leverage up the wall but we could have tried to get some of those red lines into the WA to avoid having to get it across at the next stage. 'spaffed' shurely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 Sky news now reporting an alternative extension until end of year. EU is caving, nobody wants a no deal, it will be a longer extension when she doesn't get vote through and then a second referendum. Anyone that really thinks there is a possibility of a no deal next week is batshit crazy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Sky news now reporting an alternative extension until end of year. EU is caving, nobody wants a no deal, it will be a longer extension when she doesn't get vote through and then a second referendum. Anyone that really thinks there is a possibility of a no deal next week is batshit crazy Maybe somebody managed to convince Macron that No Deal could genuinely have been the outcome of making it No Deal or May's Deal: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 51 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Military on standby. How the f**k did it get this far? (Rhetorical) All 10 of the squaddies not either deployed or on holiday? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Sky news now reporting an alternative extension until end of year. EU is caving, nobody wants a no deal, it will be a longer extension when she doesn't get vote through and then a second referendum. Anyone that really thinks there is a possibility of a no deal next week is batshit crazy They would cave even more if we left with no deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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