John Lambies Doos Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Corbyn really talking a load of shite here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Corbyn really talking a load of shite here Not very convincing, is he? He should stand aside on health grounds and let someone competent take over. He's clearly not up to this job, at this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/02/brexit-latest-news-boris-johnson-threatening-to-deselect-tory-rebels-to-provoke-early-election-claims-gauke-live-news?page=with:block-5d6cf94a8f085a442811622c#block-5d6cf94a8f085a442811622c Corbyn to support a General Election even without legislation to block No Deal. He is thick enough that he may not quite understand what he is saying so some backtracking from Labour could be incoming..... "what Jeremy really meant..... " Seriously Labour to going to the polls in a manner that made No Deal nailed on is, well his fan club will see this as more 4D chess by Corbyn but most would see this as giving the other anti Brexit parties huge open goals to shoot at. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: Corbyn really talking a load of shite here The role of the leader is to lead. Either say "We should definitely stay in the EU" OR "We should definitely leave". Every time looks like Labour have established a clear position he goes and says something that makes it unclear. This is not about whether he is on the left of the party or the right - it is about leadership - giving the impression you really have a plan and know exactly what needs to be done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Fullerene said: The role of the leader is to lead. Either say "We should definitely stay in the EU" OR "We should definitely leave". Every time looks like Labour have established a clear position he goes and says something that makes it unclear. This is not about whether he is on the left of the party or the right - it is about leadership - giving the impression you really have a plan and know exactly what needs to be done. Yeah, I’ve defended Corbyn in the past but he’s a terrible leader. I’d like to see someone take over who has ability but who wouldn’t be looking to undermine the direction that the Labour Party has taken in recent years. For me the best option would be Clive Lewis. Give Starmer a position of authority and bin Abbot (because she’s useless) and Watson (because he’s a devious c**t who shouldn’t be anywhere near the Labour Party). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Yeah, I’ve defended Corbyn in the past but he’s a terrible leader. I’d like to see someone take over who has ability but who wouldn’t be looking to undermine the direction that the Labour Party has taken in recent years. For me the best option would be Clive Lewis. Give Starmer a position of authority and bin Abbot (because she’s useless) and Watson (because he’s a devious c**t who shouldn’t be anywhere near the Labour Party). Not for me. Keir Starmer or Emily Thornberry are the best and most realistic contenders IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Most other countries parliament would be on fire by now and their politicians would be in hiding.I seen a video, from some Eastern European country, of the people literally throwing the politicians in industrial bins. Pretty fitting for this mob now I'd say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 It’s a pretty meaningless thing in the grand scheme of it, but any word on how Theresa May plans to vote when push comes to shove? She clearly feared No Deal while PM, and Johnson and his cronies ultimately brought her down. Surely she’s just so spineless as to just vote along with him here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Yeah, I’ve defended Corbyn in the past but he’s a terrible leader. I’d like to see someone take over who has ability but who wouldn’t be looking to undermine the direction that the Labour Party has taken in recent years. For me the best option would be Clive Lewis. Give Starmer a position of authority and bin Abbot (because she’s useless) and Watson (because he’s a devious c**t who shouldn’t be anywhere near the Labour Party). Clive Lewis is a w*nker. You've forgotten a prime factor of General elections. Oppositions don't win elections. Governments lose them. For me, politically , Corbyn is playing it about right. Brexit is , and always will be, a clusterfuck. Every thing that happens, day by day, makes it obvious in every way that it is a clusterfuck. And day by day, Johnson and those around him show who and what they are. As I said, Corbyn is playing the cards about right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, beefybake said: You've forgotten a prime factor of General elections. Oppositions don't win elections. Governments lose them. No, because when you've got the most unpopular opposition leader in UK political history you lose regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 If there is one, SNP surely have to go for it on a massive Indy Ref 2 ticket and try and win back a chunk of the seats they lost last time around. It's getting close to the point where they have to make their move. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, virginton said: No, because when you've got the most unpopular opposition leader in UK political history you lose regardless. Unlike referendums, general elections tend to be about core values. The values, ( other than views on the independence of Scotland ), and what will translate into manifestos, of the Labour Party , as led by Corbyn, are very much in tune with what voters now see as right, and sensible. BTW, I vote Green. Labour has zero chance in my rural English shire constituency, and the LD's will never receive my vote again. Edited September 2, 2019 by beefybake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 39 minutes ago, virginton said: No, because when you've got the most unpopular opposition leader in UK political history you lose regardless. It's impressive that he can simultaneously be historicaly unpopular and also get 12.8m votes in the last election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vikingTON Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Detournement said: It's impressive that he can simultaneously be historicaly unpopular and also get 12.8m votes in the last election. It's impressive that you think that the results of an election held in June 2017 and the results of polls showing the Mumbleclown's all-time low approval figures in August 2019 occurred 'simultaneously': impressively stupid, that is. Edited September 2, 2019 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, beefybake said: Unlike referendums, general elections tend to be about core values. The values, ( other than views on the independence of Scotland ), and what will translate into manifestos, of the Labour Party , as led by Corbyn, are very much in tune with what voters now see as right, and sensible. This is fantasy island nonsense, as borne out by all the polling data on both the Labour Party and its bumbling and incompetent leader in particular. People know what they are getting with the opposition and have already decided that they don't want it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Granny Danger Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, beefybake said: Clive Lewis is a w*nker. Riveting analysis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I recollect in the last GE, the Scottish Greens basically sat it out and only three candidates. Should there be an election soon (and it's looking increasingly likely that there will be) what will they do then? I wonder if there's a possibility that the SNP, Greens and whoever else (are the SSP and Rise still a thing?) might form one big pact and run as an Indyref2 ticket. Or will they rather stand aside and give their support to the SNP? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, zidane's child said: Not for me. Keir Starmer or Emily Thornberry are the best and most realistic contenders IMO. Starmer would never win a leadership race for Labour. 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: Why's Abbott supposed to be useless in particular? She seems no better or worse than the rest of them from what I've heard She can’t get her facts straight and she can’t argue a point well. That applies to others but none that hold such a senior shadow post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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