sureiknow Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: There's a few bored and disillusioned old Republicans eager for any excuse to get some youngsters fired up for murder. And likewise in the Loyalist camp. You don't f**k around with this stuff. The Loyalist's have not responded as yet. I do remember the time when they said there will never be a Loyalist Backlash. They were wrong though i don't believe there will be this time tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 40 minutes ago, sureiknow said: The Loyalist's have not responded as yet. I do remember the time when they said there will never be a Loyalist Backlash. They were wrong though i don't believe there will be this time tbh. If the thing ends up with border checks between Belfast and Stranraer, there will definitely be a backlash. It would be surprising if there weren't more than a few itching to get back in the game every time there's a republican bomb or shooting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, GordonS said: If the thing ends up with border checks between Belfast and Stranraer, there will definitely be a backlash. It would be surprising if there weren't more than a few itching to get back in the game every time there's a republican bomb or shooting. There already are surely? ID checks at the ferry and airports and spot checks on cargo? If the DUP weren't so hung up on it the backstop could be solved fairly easily, apart from rampant smuggling on the island itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Meanwhile, our leaders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: There already are surely? ID checks at the ferry and airports and spot checks on cargo? If the DUP weren't so hung up on it the backstop could be solved fairly easily, apart from rampant smuggling on the island itself. I thought the ID info on the ferries was just maritime/ company stuff, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, GordonS said: I thought the ID info on the ferries was just maritime/ company stuff, no? I got questioned by Special Branch last time. It was a while ago though. I'd have thought it would still be a step up from Cal Mac though, basic security and random or information led spot checks. Even now there's cross border smuggling in fuel, and tobacco intended for the mainland market. No doubt people smuggling too. If security was stepped up a bit people would hardly notice, especially at the airports. A lot less than manned checkpoints on the land border anyway. Edited August 29, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Court of Session to deliver a ruling this morning at 10am on BoJo's plan to suspend Parliament. Whatever the verdict is, one side or the other will appeal against it so we are unlikely to be any further on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: 14 hours ago, Day of the Lords said: No one will give a shit until they start blowing up Tories again Huh have you found the positive case for brexit? Every cloud etc etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 hours ago, welshbairn said: There already are surely? ID checks at the ferry and airports and spot checks on cargo? If the DUP weren't so hung up on it the backstop could be solved fairly easily, apart from rampant smuggling on the island itself. I travel on the Stena about six times a year and have done for over ten years. Not once have i been asked for I.D. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 hours ago, welshbairn said: There already are surely? ID checks at the ferry and airports and spot checks on cargo? If the DUP weren't so hung up on it the backstop could be solved fairly easily, apart from rampant smuggling on the island itself. You make that sound like a bad thing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 35 minutes ago, sureiknow said: I travel on the Stena about six times a year and have done for over ten years. Not once have i been asked for I.D. It would make no significant difference to you if they did though, presumably you already have to show your ticket, and they could check lorries on board. Compared to setting up a land border it would be barely noticeable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It would make no significant difference to you if they did though, presumably you already have to show your ticket, and they could check lorries on board. Compared to setting up a land border it would be barely noticeable. They don't even ask for a Ticket/ Booking Ref. sometimes as they pick up your details driving up to the Check in Booth. Security is a lot stricter coming from Scotland to N. Ire. than other direction. Car searching at times for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Given the amount Scotland apparently spends on Defence, the army should have no problem dealing with possible civil unrest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Made the schoolboy error of checking out the comments on a BBC article about brexit. My eyes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 John Major taking Bojo to court to prevent him suspending parliament. Eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Court case will be heard in full on Tuesday; QC against the government says that Boris Johnson should be sworn in on oath to give his reasons for prorogation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Joanna Cherry, Jolyon Melt and Gina Miller surely don't actually believe that a British judge is going to over rule the Queen or cross examine the PM? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: Joanna Cherry, Jolyon Melt and Gina Miller surely don't actually believe that a British judge is going to over rule the Queen or cross examine the PM? Announcing a judgement against the establishment? He'd be quietly assassinated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Announcing a judgement against the establishment? He'd be quietly assassinated. The basic rule of British justice is that the richer person wins. From recent news headlines. Poor woman murders her two children. 35 years. Affluent woman murders her two children. 10 years. Black kids in London get convicted of joint enterprise murder despite not handling a weapon. White public school boy in Manchester carries knife in order to commit robbery and fatally stabs someone in the heart. Not guilty. The Shoreham air show is obviously the prime example. The idea that a court challenges a decision by the Queen is laughable. It reminds me of upper middle class Americans believing that Mueller was going to arrest Trump. So much money, so little clue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Joanna Cherry, Jolyon Melt and Gina Miller surely don't actually believe that a British judge is going to over rule the Queen or cross examine the PM?For Cherry etc its a great way to show just how removed from the decision making process Scotland and it’s people are. Then when it comes to indy 2 we can list everything we tried which was gleefully swept aside by the UK. Win or lose the court case it contributes to the argument for independence. A hard brexit pretty much guarantees it. The only way indy 2 is defeated is brexit being scrapped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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