NotThePars Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 "A tankie nutter" lololol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Of course Remain is the best option but Leave won the referendum, so some sort of Brexit has to happen. An EEA style Brexit would have been no big deal and would have been easy to achieve if Labour wasn't led by a tankie nutter like Corbyn and Theresa May hadn't called her vanity general election that left her short of a parliamentary majority giving fringe nutters like Rees-Mogg more leverage than they otherwise would have had. We disagree on this fundamental point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: We disagree on this fundamental point. I wouldn't disagree with LongTimeLurker's assertion that some kind of Brexit has to happen. What kind of an alternative would you suggest? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: I wouldn't disagree with LongTimeLurker's assertion that some kind of Brexit has to happen. What kind of an alternative would you suggest? We have another referendum with Remainas one of the options. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: We have another referendum with Remainas one of the options. I'd be happy with that but 50% of the population could very well be violently opposed to it. Then you're going to get all these crass arguments like should we have a best of three, etc, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ICTJohnboy said: I'd be happy with that but 50% of the population could very well be violently opposed to it. Then you're going to get all these crass arguments like should we have a best of three, etc, etc. Violently opposed? Maybe a tiny minority. It’s what should be done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 We disagree on this fundamental point. You disagree with democracy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: Violently opposed? Maybe a tiny minority. It’s what should be done. Minority perhaps, but I doubt it will be tiny. Something I've learned since I came to live in this part of the world is the strength of feeling on this topic. Just consider these c***s for a few minutes : https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/anna-soubry-calls-ministers-who-12690656 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Minority perhaps, but I doubt it will be tiny. Something I've learned since I came to live in this part of the world is the strength of feeling on this topic. Just consider these c***s for a few minutes : https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/anna-soubry-calls-ministers-who-12690656 Tiny. Lots of shouting, lots of marches, very, very little violence and when those who did perpetrate it were caught it would fizzle out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Tiny. Lots of shouting, lots of marches, very, very little violence and when those who did perpetrate it were caught it would fizzle out. Even the kind of fudged compromise that May is going after now is likely to trigger violence on a scale not seen since your friend and mine, Margaret Thatcher tried to impose poll tax on an unsuspecting England. This of course, 1 year after she had imposed it on Scotland. Edited November 4, 2018 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Even the kind of fudged compromise that May is going after now is likely to trigger violence on a scale not seen since your friend and mine, Margaret Thatcher tried to impose poll tax on an unsuspecting England. This of course, 1 year after she had imposed it on Scotland. I don’t remember much/any real violence surrounding the poll tax. How many were killed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: You disagree with democracy? By that logic, wouldn't the people campaigning for another independence referendum in the near future also be 'disagreeing with democracy'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I don’t remember much/any real violence surrounding the poll tax. How many were killed? Probably only one - a Mrs M Thatcher, a grocer's daughter from Grantham in Lincolnshire : 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 By that logic, wouldn't the people campaigning for another independence referendum in the near future also be 'disagreeing with democracy'? No, certainly not since the material change. Britain voted Brexit, nothing has happened. Not sure that's democracy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 By that logic, wouldn't the people campaigning for another independence referendum in the near future also be 'disagreeing with democracy'? Id have been inclined to agree with you had it not been for every single thing promised by the no camp not being delivered. A) The vow- not delivered B) Scotland will ‘lead the uk’- fucking no where near delivered, we maybe lead it on conscious and not being a shower of right wing c***s however C) Vote no to preserve your place in the EU- thats not really working out well now. Lets face it had the No camp just thrown a few simple things Scotlands way like a brexit deal, meaningful input into foreign policy or some decent kind of Devo -max then they’d have probably put indy to bed for decades, however they have such contempt for Scotland they just don’t even think we are worth the hassle. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 An MP was killed days before the referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Id have been inclined to agree with you had it not been for every single thing promised by the no camp not being delivered. A) The vow- not delivered B) Scotland will ‘lead the uk’- fucking no where near delivered, we maybe lead it on conscious and not being a shower of right wing c***s however C) Vote no to preserve your place in the EU- thats not really working out well now. Lets face it had the No camp just thrown a few simple things Scotlands way like a brexit deal, meaningful input into foreign policy or some decent kind of Devo -max then they’d have probably put indy to bed for decades, however they have such contempt for Scotland they just don’t even think we are worth the hassle. It isn't my personal opinion. I was just questioning the consistency of actively supporting another independence referendum in the near future whilst complaining that those wanting a vote on the Brexit deal are 'disagreeing with democracy'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 An MP was killed days before the referendum. I genuinely believe there would be absolute riots of hard right EDL Yaxley Lennon crayon eaters all over England if Brexit was cancelled. I also believe there would be targeted fatalities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: I genuinely believe there would be absolute riots of hard right EDL Yaxley Lennon crayon eaters all over England if Brexit was cancelled. I also believe there would be targeted fatalities. By the size of of the Tommy Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon Robinson marches so far, I'd expect the reaction to be fairly small. Twitter would go mad but most of them don't know how to get on a bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 By the size of of the Tommy Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon Robinson marches so far, I'd expect the reaction to be fairly small. Twitter would go mad but most of them don't know how to get on a bus.Yes but ask yourself this, why they need to march when they are getting everything they want? The UK is a hard right nut jobs wet dream right now, so they don’t have to march. Stop brexit and they’ll have something to complain and collectively gammon (intended as a verb) about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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