Ivo den Bieman Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 ^^ word salad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Shires team looks drastically worse this season and they're 3rd Edinburgh City shagged the LL 2 years running and not won once in 10 games Why do people judge things after one off cup games Calling The Mo deadwood is probably fair tbh they've not moved leagues in the last 20 year and have spent that mainly in the 37th-42nd spots, would still fancy them to avoid relegation though, looking at it, there's a handful of clubs East Kilbride and Spartans etc to me who seem like they'd have the potential to thrive in the SPFL. I think Edinburgh will be down again come the end of the season and replaced by EK, who I think would be a big improvement, how well they'll do though remains to be seen. Aye they've a great record in the cup but when you see some of the players they have... Size of town though and plans they have for new ground etc could see them do well. Seems mental they don't have an SPFL team already to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 The LL really needed the top junior clubs like Auchinleck Talbot, Irvine Meadow (they'll bounce back again), Beith, Pollok, Bo'ness United, Linlithgow Rose, Bonnyrigg Rose and Kelty on board for there to be a serious threat of emptying out the lower division clubs en masse, but EKFC are clearly the first likely candidate to emerge that can be expected to move up and make a significant impact given the catchment they have and the plans for a 4000 all seater stadium. Once Cove Rangers and Clydebank (suspect Holm Park is getting renovated with the senior grade in mind) get their grounds sorted out, they will have the potential to do the same over the next decade or so. Things won't stand still even if the fifth tier is less than perfect. As for Edinburgh City maybe they would have been due for a dip in form even if they had still been in the LL this season? I think most people would have expected Spartans to be the first LL club to be promoted and City's dominance in the previous two seasons was a bit of a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfassemblyshire Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Shires team looks drastically worse this season and they're 3rd Edinburgh City shagged the LL 2 years running and not won once in 10 games Why do people judge things after one off cup games Calling The Mo deadwood is probably fair tbh they've not moved leagues in the last 20 year and have spent that mainly in the 37th-42nd spots, would still fancy them to avoid relegation though, looking at it, there's a handful of clubs East Kilbride and Spartans etc to me who seem like they'd have the potential to thrive in the SPFL. I think Edinburgh will be down again come the end of the season and replaced by EK, who I think would be a big improvement, how well they'll do though remains to be seen. Aye they've a great record in the cup but when you see some of the players they have... Size of town though and plans they have for new ground etc could see them do well. Seems mental they don't have an SPFL team already to be honest. We're not coming up any time soon I reckon. Not until we get our own ground and take time to rebuild. EK will replace EC which is a shame but that's football. EK have a bit of money this season and hopefully they can attract more followers to watch them in SPFL. They certainly have good enough players already and wouldnt need much improvement for a mid table League 2 finish.City's problem is that they never really signed anybody after beating a garabage Shire team who had the worst 180 minutes of their season. At least they'll survive the drop where I'm not sure teams like Montrose would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Problem Montrose have, and ourselves but fortunately can't see us ever being in bother, is that the clubs at the top of the HL are paying mental money. Now the players they're getting aren't very good SPFL players. Know plenty who have had offers and plenty that have came into the league from there, but still, that's what you have to pay guys to do the kind of travelling that's involved. Market hugely restricted too. Majority of population is in the Lowland League area. Arbroaths basically Dundee. Mental that we're getting classed as highland in this split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 Huge results in SOSL recently. Wigtown won 1-0 at home v Edusport today and St Cuthbert won 3-1 at home v Edusport 10 days ago, leaving Wigtown 8pts clear out front now. Heriot-Watt University and Eyemouth currently set the pace in EOSL - but LTHV, Leith and Tynecastle (who have already lost and drawn) have barely got going. Threave are a mammoth 19pts behind, and given SOSL is now past halfway it would already take a monumental effort to win a return to LL next season.Lowland League (30 games) 9 Whitehill P12 W5 D1 L6 -6 16pts10 Gretna P12 W5 D1 L6 -14 16pts11 Hawick P12 W5 D0 L7 +1 15pts12 Edinburgh U P12 W3 D3 L6 -8 12pts13 Civil Serv. P11 W3 D3 L5 -5 12pts 14 Gala P11 W2 D4 L5 -12 10pts=================================================15 Selkirk P13 W3 D0 L10 -19 9pts 16 Preston P11 W2 D1 L8 -9 7pts East of Scotland League (20 games over 22 dates)1 Heriot-W U P6 W5 D1 L0 +20 16pts---------------------------------------------- 2 Eyemouth P6 W5 D1 L0 +16 16pts 3 Leith P4 W4 D0 L0 +19 12pts 4 Stir U EOS P8 W3 D2 L3 +8 11pts 5 Lothian Th P3 W3 D0 L0 +9 9pts6 Coldstream P6 W2 D2 L2 -7 8ptsSouth of Scotland League (26 games) 1 Wigtown P14 W13 D1 L0 +32 40pts ------------------------------------------------ 2 St Cuthb't P13 W10 D2 L1 +32 32pts 3 Edusport A P14 W10 D2 L2 +20 32pts4 Mid Annan. P14 W9 D0 L5 +12 27pts 5 Newton St. P14 W8 D0 L6 +9 24pts 5 Threave P14 W6 D3 L5 +12 21pts7 Heston P14 W6 D1 L7 -3 19pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 @HibeeJibee Are two teams getting relegated from the LL this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 Two are relegated if (say) Buckie are promoted into SPFL2, Cowdenbeath relegated from SPFL2 and either/both EOSL & SOSL champions licensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 On 2016/10/15 at 14:29, Ivo den Bieman said: Nice avoidance of the actual point- the first team which gained the right to show just how poor all the bed blocking diddy clubs in SPFL 2 are, is not only failing to do so but having a nightmare at the higher level thus far. Not looking quite so nightmarish now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Well done Team Tam Today. Could have been even better if Cowdenbeath hadn't grabbed a last minute equaliser... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Sorry if this has already been covered but who can come up from east and south in terms of licence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 Most of the top half and all the realistic title contenders in SOSL are licensed; Edusport, Wigtown, St Cuthbert, Threave Rovers, and Newton Stewart who have to obtain theirs or lose their SFA membership and Scottish Cup access (although we all thought that last year tbf). In EOSL only Coldstream and Burntisland, currently mid-table and bottom respectively; but it was noticed that planning permission for work clearly connected to licensing has gone in at Saughton Enclosure where LTHV and Tynecastle are among the EOSL title contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Seems like Lothian THV and Leith are easily better than Preston, Selkirk and even Gala FR, and Tynecastle are better than at least the bottom two. Would be really good if the top EOS teans got licensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Opportune time for an update, as plenty of league games have been completed in recent weeks compared to the preceding period. Not much positional change in LL - Hawick have dropped a couple of places and CSS risen a couple. Leith have taken over atop EOSL. Wigtown & Bladnoch now have a solid lead in SOSL. Both these clubs remain unbeaten.Lowland League (30 games)11 Civil Serv. P15 W5 D3 L7 -9 18pts12 Edinburgh U P14 W4 D4 L6 -1 16pts13 Hawick P14 W5 D1 L8 -7 16pts 14 Gala P15 W4 D4 L7 -19 16pts=================================================15 Selkirk P16 W3 D0 L13 -22 9pts 16 Preston P16 W2 D1 L13 -36 7pts East of Scotland League (20 games over 22 dates)1 Leith P6 W6 D0 L0 +25 18pts----------------------------------------------- 2 Heriot-W P8 W5 D1 L2 +18 16pts 3 Eyemouth P8 W5 D1 L2 +10 16pts 4 Coldstream P9 W4 D3 L2 -5 15pts 5 Stir U EOS P11 W4 D2 L5 +5 14pts 6 Lothian T. P5 W4 D1 L0 +12 13pts 7 Tynecastle P6 W4 D1 L1 +11 13ptsSouth of Scotland League (26 games) 1 Wigtown P16 W15 D1 L0 +41 46pts ------------------------------------------------ 2 St Cuthb't P16 W12 D3 L1 +42 39pts 3 Edusport A P16 W12 D2 L2 +27 38pts4 Mid Annan. P16 W10 D1 L5 +16 31pts 5 Threave P16 W7 D3 L6 +26 24pts 6 Newton St. P14 W8 D0 L6 +9 24pts7 Lochar Th. P15 W8 D0 L7 +7 24pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Opportune time for an update, as plenty of league games have been completed in recent weeks compared to the preceding period. Not much positional change in LL - Hawick have dropped a couple of places and CSS risen a couple. Leith have taken over atop EOSL. Wigtown & Bladnoch now have a solid lead in SOSL. Both these clubs remain unbeaten. Would Leith and W&B be allowed to come up? Leith are in the same boat as the Lilywhites if Meadowbank ends up kaput & I can't remember reading anything about Wigtown & Bladnoch doing any substantial work to the very basic facilities they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Leith - not currently (hence greyed-out). Wigtown - most certainly, they're licensed. Similarly-equipped to Vale of Leithen:http://nonleaguescotland.org.uk/wigtown.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Is that goal difference for Coldstream correct? Those two defeats must have been right humpings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Indeed - went down 4-0 and 8-2:Sep 10 ... Coldstream 0-4 Lothian Thistle HV Sep 24 ... Coldstream 2-2 Eyemouth Utd Oct 01 ... Leith Athletic 8-2 Coldstream Oct 08 ... Peebles Rovers 0-1 Coldstream Oct 22 ... Coldstream 2-2 Stirling University EOS Oct 29 ... Coldstream 4-2 Tweedmouth Rangers Nov 05 ... Burntisland Shipyard 2-2 Coldstream Nov 12 ... Stirling University EOS 3-4 Coldstream Nov 19 ... Heriot-Watt University 2-3 Coldstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 There was some talk earlier about Lothian and Tynecastle possibly getting licensed at the end of the season. Both are still in the EOS title race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Not that long since the last update, but as all 3 leagues embark on Christmas breaks of varying duration, here's the standings. Things have tightened-up quite a bit in LL with Preston recording 2 wins and Selkirk taking 1pt at Stirling, although they drop to bottom.Lowland League (30 games)10 Vale of L. P18 W6 D3 L9 -5 21pts 11 Civil Serv. P17 W5 D5 L7 -9 20pts12 Gala P17 W5 D4 L8 -20 19pts13 Edinburgh U P16 W4 D5 L7 -2 17pts 14 Hawick P16 W5 D1 L10 -10 16pts=================================================15 Preston P18 W4 D1 L13 -34 13pts 16 Selkirk P18 W3 D1 L14 -28 10pts East of Scotland League (20 games over 22 dates)1 Leith P7 W7 D0 L0 +32 21pts----------------------------------------------- 2 Heriot-W P9 W6 D1 L2 +21 19pts 3 Tynecastle P8 W6 D1 L1 +15 19pts 4 Eyemouth P10 W6 D1 L3 +8 19pts 5 Coldstream P11 W5 D3 L3 -7 18pts 6 Lothian T. P6 W5 D1 L0 +17 16pts 7 Stir. U EOS P11 W4 D2 L5 +5 14ptsSouth of Scotland League (26 games) 1 Wigtown P17 W16 D1 L0 +44 49pts ------------------------------------------------ 2 St Cuthb't P17 W13 D3 L1 +46 42pts 3 Edusport A P17 W13 D2 L2 +31 41pts4 Mid Annan. P17 W10 D2 L5 +16 32pts 5 Threave P18 W8 D4 L6 +27 28pts 6 Newton St. P15 W9 D0 L6 +12 27pts7 Lochar Th. P15 W8 D0 L7 +7 24pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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