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1 hour ago, carpetmonster said:

Murkowski has said she won't vote on a new appointment prior to Inauguration Day and you'd think Romney wouldn't either. So we need another 2 Republicans with any sort of a sense of principle. We fucked. 

It's hard for them to ram this through in 6 weeks when they blocked Obama's nomination to replace Scalia in his final year for 8 months, until after the election. It'll look blatantly hypocritical and political.

It won't affect most but there are a few in tight races, including on the judiciary committee. There are a few with consciences too. Well informed people think there's reason to hope that it might not happen, so you never know.

 

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5 hours ago, GordonS said:

It's hard for them to ram this through in 6 weeks when they blocked Obama's nomination to replace Scalia in his final year for 8 months, until after the election. It'll look blatantly hypocritical and political.

It won't affect most but there are a few in tight races, including on the judiciary committee. There are a few with consciences too. Well informed people think there's reason to hope that it might not happen, so you never know.

 

Hypocrisy is the calling card of the GOP now.  And Trump enablers, the anti-anti Trump crowd, will find a way to justify it.  

These are the times that Trump apologists really get what they deserve.  

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6 hours ago, GordonS said:

It's hard for them to ram this through in 6 weeks when they blocked Obama's nomination to replace Scalia in his final year for 8 months, until after the election. It'll look blatantly hypocritical and political.

It won't affect most but there are a few in tight races, including on the judiciary committee. There are a few with consciences too. Well informed people think there's reason to hope that it might not happen, so you never know.

 

They've got till January rather than just till the election. Doesn't seem like there's much the Dems can do to stop it it without Republican rebels, but if they win the Presidency and take over the Senate they could just appoint 2 more Justices to restore the balance. There's nothing in the constitution to prevent it, now that the norms of precedent and what's deemed as acceptable behaviour have gone out of the window.

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4 minutes ago, G51 said:

Trump and McConnell will replace Ginsberg before the election, no doubt about it. And the Democrats will just let them, then whine about it. Centrists lack the courage to do what is necessary.

There’s literally nothing the Democrats can do to stop it.

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10 minutes ago, Aladdin said:

I doubt Murkowski, Collins and Romney would vote to confirm a new appointment.

Just needs one more to break ranks.

You'd think there must be at least one more retiring Senator who just wants to f**k Trump up out of spite. Maybe an old friend of MacCain.

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58 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

There’s literally nothing the Democrats can do to stop it.

There's a million things they can do if they really want to stop it. All they have to do is run out the clock, after all.

They won't do it, because another right-wing justice isn't a threat to centrism, it's a threat to the left. And that's just fine with the Democrats.

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17 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

You'd think there must be at least one more retiring Senator who just wants to f**k Trump up out of spite. Maybe an old friend of MacCain.

It isn't fucking Trump though. Appointing another right wing justice is about their long term neoliberal project. 

If there is a hold out Trump will just do his drain the swamp routine and say that Biden is going to appoint a radical Marxist to the court. 

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4 minutes ago, G51 said:

There's a million things they can do if they really want to stop it. All they have to do is run out the clock, after all.

They won't do it, because another right-wing justice isn't a threat to centrism, it's a threat to the left. And that's just fine with the Democrats.

There's nothing they can do while the Republicans have the numbers. The Republicans changed the rules so they can block filibustering with a majority of one. 

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7 minutes ago, Detournement said:

It isn't fucking Trump though. Appointing another right wing justice is about their long term neoliberal project. 

If there is a hold out Trump will just do his drain the swamp routine and say that Biden is going to appoint a radical Marxist to the court. 

I have absolutely no idea what you're on about. Do you think the Democrats want another Justice in favour of abolishing abortion rights and continually siding with employers versus workers?

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1 hour ago, Aladdin said:

I doubt Murkowski, Collins and Romney would vote to confirm a new appointment.

Just needs one more to break ranks.

Collins is utterly tied in to having Trump’s backing.  No chance she’s not voting to confirm.   This is the be all and end all for these people: having a conservative leaning Supreme Court.  Romney might be the better bet to join Murkowski, but I don’t see any others.   The brazen hypocrisy of Mitch McConnell is going to come to the fore, but it’s also the brazen hypocrisy of the Republican Party at this point, and they need to be voted out at every conceivable level of government.  It bares repeating: does anyone genuinely still hold the view that Biden would be ‘just as bad’?  

The other point is that the filibuster is no longer an option; with Pence the deciding vote, it’s a gimme that Trump gets his nominee.  

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