ayrmad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Im_Rodger said: This, Tories and Labour are Brexit parties imo. They can't be anything else as they both stood in the last GE as such. Edited May 17, 2019 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, ayrmad said: They're voting for the main 2 parties and therefore also voting for parties seeking Brexit. Well.... Not so much seeking Brexit, more a case of half heartedly delivering Brexit because that's what England voted for. Didn't most members of the 2 main parties vote to remain in the referendum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, ICTJohnboy said: Well.... Not so much seeking Brexit, more a case of half heartedly delivering Brexit because that's what England voted for. Didn't most members of the 2 main parties vote to remain in the referendum? Yes and then they ALL stood on a manifesto to deliver Brexit, I actually like the fact that both parties have differing views within their parties, watching the SNP voting through almost everything as one doesn't actually sit too well with me. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Well.... Not so much seeking Brexit, more a case of half heartedly delivering Brexit because that's what England voted for. Didn't most members of the 2 main parties vote to remain in the referendum? A big majority of Conservative members voted Brexit. I'm sure it was reported at 60%ish. Think it's the opposite for Labour though. ETA unless you were referring to the Scottish Tories in that case you would be correct. Edited May 17, 2019 by Im_Rodger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Yes and then they ALL stood on a manifesto to deliver Brexit, I actually like the fact that both parties have differing views within their parties, watching the SNP voting through almost everything as one doesn't actually sit too well with me. Aye. Those SNP MPs who are no really all that hot for independence should come out and say so...... they could split away and form some Change Scotland party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Im_Rodger said: A big majority of Conservative members voted Brexit. I'm sure it was reported at 60%ish. Think it's the opposite for Labour though. Most members of the House of Commons are believed to have voted Remain in the EU referendum. According to a survey of all 650 MPs carried out by the Press Association ahead of the referendum on June 23: :: 480 MPs said they would be voting Remain, including 184 Conservatives :: 159 MPs said they would be voting Leave, including 139 Conservatives :: 11 MPs were undeclared, including four Conservatives This gives Remain a notional Commons majority of at least 310. Some 218 Labour MPs said they would vote Remain while just 11 backed Leave. All eight Liberal Democrat MPs intended to vote Remain, along with all 56 SNP MPs, all three Plaid Cymru MPs, all four Sinn Fein MPs and all three SDLP MPs. Green MP Caroline Lucas also said she would vote Remain, as did independent MP Sylvia Hermon and the two Ulster Unionist MPs. The eight DUP MPs said they would be voting to Leave, along with Ukip MP Douglas Carswell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: Aye. Those SNP MPs who are no really all that hot for independence should come out and say so...... they could split away and form some Change Scotland party. They vote on almost every issue as one in both parliaments, it's not fucking normal, folk just don't agree on every issue in the real world. Edited May 17, 2019 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Most members of the House of Commons are believed to have voted Remain in the EU referendum. According to a survey of all 650 MPs carried out by the Press Association ahead of the referendum on June 23: :: 480 MPs said they would be voting Remain, including 184 Conservatives :: 159 MPs said they would be voting Leave, including 139 Conservatives :: 11 MPs were undeclared, including four Conservatives This gives Remain a notional Commons majority of at least 310. Some 218 Labour MPs said they would vote Remain while just 11 backed Leave. All eight Liberal Democrat MPs intended to vote Remain, along with all 56 SNP MPs, all three Plaid Cymru MPs, all four Sinn Fein MPs and all three SDLP MPs. Green MP Caroline Lucas also said she would vote Remain, as did independent MP Sylvia Hermon and the two Ulster Unionist MPs. The eight DUP MPs said they would be voting to Leave, along with Ukip MP Douglas Carswell. Aww I thought you were referring to party members and not MP's. My bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Im_Rodger said: Aww I thought you were referring to party members and not MP's. My bad. Sorry - Should have made that clear. I was thinking more of Members of Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I have a feeling that Change UK will do very badly. Even lower than their circa average polling of 6-8%, and in Scotland, they'll get about 2% - UKIP might even beat them here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, ayrmad said: They vote on almost every issue as one in both parliaments, it's not fucking normal, folk just don't agree on every issue in the real world. Politics isn't the real world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said: Politics isn't the real world. I know and the SNP's voting pattern is even further from reality than the rest, they vote like a cult. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I know and the SNP's voting pattern is even further from reality than the rest, they vote like a cult.Think the "like" bit is superflous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Loondave1 said: 5 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I know and the SNP's voting pattern is even further from reality than the rest, they vote like a cult. Think the "like" bit is superflous. I'm voting for the cult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I know and the SNP's voting pattern is even further from reality than the rest, they vote like a cult. It's a party system. What do you expect? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I'm voting for the cult.Cult gonna cult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Tibbermoresaint said: It's a party system. What do you expect? Differing views on some issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, ayrmad said: Differing views on some issues. Why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said: Why? To make sure the best policies are introduced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, ayrmad said: To make sure the best policies are introduced. On the big issues you wouldn't expect to see that at all. If you don't support brexit for example, you should be resigning from a party that supports it if you have any principles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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