IrishBhoy Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said: There is the hope that Ross might have had his wings clipped slightly by his sackings. You'd also like to think he's got a better idea of the caliber of player required at this level than perhaps he did before. *Glances sideways at Kellermann* I was speaking with my pal last night about that, what sort of wage do you think St Mirren are able to offer to him? I would say it would be something around £120-140k p/a, although admittedly that’s a complete guess on my part. It was reported that when he went to Sunderland he was making 5 times his St Mirren wage, so I would put that somewhere in the £500k p/a region. At Hibs I would imagine around £200k p/a? This is all complete guesswork but I don’t think Ross is in the position at the moment to turn his nose up at the wage we can offer, even if he is still taking a wage from Hibs until the end of the season. It’s highly unlikely he gets a job at English Championship level, the Aberdeen job is now filled and there doesn’t look like there’s much else on the horizon that would interest him. Possibly some crazy English League 1 team offering daft money but again it doesn’t seem likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMuzekMan Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Very bizarre to see our former chairman claiming on Twitter that Naismith is only linked with the job due to his Dad’s (rumoured) position within Kibble. He’s clearly a highly rated coach, works with both the first team and U18s at Hearts, brought onto Clarke’s coaching staff at Scotland. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, TheMuzekMan said: Very bizarre to see our former chairman claiming on Twitter that Naismith is only linked with the job due to his Dad’s (rumoured) position within Kibble. He’s clearly a highly rated coach, works with both the first team and U18s at Hearts, brought onto Clarke’s coaching staff at Scotland. Bunch of moon howlers making that link. So what if his dad works at the Kibble? It’s hardly the reason why we are speaking to him about the job. He’s got a good playing pedigree, clearly interested in coaching and, if he can get a team playing like he did as a player, it could be interesting. He’s not my first choice, but I can understand the appeal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMuzekMan Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, aldo_j said: Bunch of moon howlers making that link. So what if his dad works at the Kibble? It’s hardly the reason why we are speaking to him about the job. He’s got a good playing pedigree, clearly interested in coaching and, if he can get a team playing like he did as a player, it could be interesting. He’s not my first choice, but I can understand the appeal. I get that there is a few unhappy fans when it comes to the Kibble but do people seriously think the board would risk arguably our most successful season in years to appoint someone based on who their dad is? I trust the board to appoint the best possible candidate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldchap Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Agree Ross has had his chance with us . Also reckon he is a disruptive influence. Naismith appeals much more than Brown. Slightly left field I wonder if Gary Irvine of Forfar is worth a look 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coventry Saint said: There is the hope that Ross might have had his wings clipped slightly by his sackings. Since he left Hibs, jobs at Aberdeen, Dundee and Killie have come and gone. There's no prospect of him getting a better gig in Scotland than with us. I know that he still lives in Medburn in Northumberland (did a mental commute to Edinburgh every day) and it could be that he's holding out for a job in England. Might be a long wait though.... Edited February 20, 2022 by Buttocks Brown 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buttocks Brown said: Since he left Hibs, jobs at Aberdeen, Dundee and Killie have come and gone. There's no prospect of him getting a better gig in Scotland than with us. I know that he still lives in Medburn in Northumberland (did a mental commute to Edinburgh every day) and it could be that he's holding out for a job in England. Might be a long wait though.... Tbf that's a mental commute in any direction, once you rule out Newcastle and Sunderland. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie82 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Oldchap said: Agree Ross has had his chance with us . Also reckon he is a disruptive influence. Naismith appeals much more than Brown. Slightly left field I wonder if Gary Irvine of Forfar is worth a look 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMuzekMan Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Buttocks Brown said: Since he left Hibs, jobs at Aberdeen, Dundee and Killie have come and gone. There's no prospect of him getting a better gig in Scotland than with us. I know that he still lives in Medburn in Northumberland (did a mental commute to Edinburgh every day) and it could be that he's holding out for a job in England. Might be a long wait though.... JR was at Sunderland’s match yesterday. He must be settled in Northumberland if he opted to commute to Edinburgh instead of moving back permanently. Considering there’s not many vacancies up here atm, he could be holding out for a gig down south as you said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 He's probably still on Sunderland's wage bill too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Maybe Jack's son is a Sunderland fan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Coventry Saint said: Tbf that's a mental commute in any direction, once you rule out Newcastle and Sunderland. Aye it isn't half never coming back to Paisley we're going end up with some loony 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie82 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Dearie me that’ll be that then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Norrie82 said: Dearie me that’ll be that then. All it means is the process is under way, which is good. Needs to be sorted quickly. If people are unsure, best get them out the way first. We are an attractive club just now, certainly compared to where we've been. Edited February 20, 2022 by Ric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie82 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I hope so Ric. No harm to the two lads without experience I just think we need a manager at present who has been in the job before we can’t have a rookie making mistakes in a season where we are hoping to push for top half and hampden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, Norrie82 said: I hope so Ric. No harm to the two lads without experience I just think we need a manager at present who has been in the job before we can’t have a rookie making mistakes in a season where we are hoping to push for top half and hampden Oh, listen, we could wring our hands, and put a negative spin on it, but I don't really see the benefit on that. Not that it couldn't be done. Might as well look at the positives, we need a manager in, ideally before the Dundee game, and the process of appointing one means candidates will drop by the wayside. Just means we are closer to our goal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Said several times I didn't think he'd want it. It just didn't make enough sense. He'll bide his time on his Hibs paycheque and eventually a League One side will take a punt on him. He didn't exactly fail at Sunderland or Hibs... He'll back himself to get another gig in England. Saints Twitter is a nightmare right now, mind. Bit of panic creeping in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishBhoy Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ric said: All it means is the process is under way, which is good. Needs to be sorted quickly. If people are unsure, best get them out the way first. We are an attractive club just now, certainly compared to where we've been. I would like to think we are an attractive club just now, certainly far more attractive than at any other point in our recent history. However it would be good if the calibre of manager being linked to the job matched that level of attraction. Maybe I’m missing something here but on what planet does a manager who’s only ever taken charge of youth games at a very low level get his hat thrown into the ring for a club with aspirations for 4th in the top flight? I seen someone on Twitter shouting down a fan who said McGarry would be a good shout, by claiming there was guys at boys club level with the same experience. That’s fair enough, but you can’t then point to Naismith or Brown who have been managing a bunch of teenagers infront of two men and a dug for the past 2 years as evidence of managerial experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Looking at potential managers mentioned:Jack Ross Clubs Managed - 4Levels managed -Scottish ChampEFL 1Scottish premDerek McInnesClubs Managed = 4Levels managed -Scottish ChampScottish premiershipEnglish champTommy WrightClubs managed = 5Levels managed -NIFL Premier Intermediate LeagueNIFL PremiershipScottish premiershipScottish championshipDerek AdamsClubs managed = 4Levels managed -Scottish ChampScottish premiershipEnglish league 2English league 1Grant McCannClubs managed = 3Levels managed -English league 1English championshipScott BrownClubs managed = 0Levels managed = 0Steven Naismith Clubs managed = 0Levels managed = 0I was roughly looking at senior level and not teenage teams.Now seen thibgs saying Jack Ross an has rejected an offer from St. Mirren to return as boss. I wonder why? The money? If he has rejected us, then I worry we are going to go for the untested route with 0 experience, which then you wonder if that could f**k the momentum we currently have and what contacts would they have for off season signings? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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