The DUP

[ravabelli]

At a time when the country is under attack from backward thinking religious fanatics Theresa May turns to backward thinking religious fanatics! No wonder this country's fucked......Up independence, get me out of here 

[LongTimeLurker]

15 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

Because Foster was actively seeking his endorsement.

Who else were they going to endorse? The DUP only gets the UDA's endorsement because their own party, the Ulster Democratic Party had a miniscule support level and had to be wound up to save them from any further embarrassment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Democratic_Party  

which brings us to the question of whether the UDA's endorsement actually matters very much or is probably on balance more of a liability. My guess would be the latter given it was the DUP's opponents such as the Alliance party that were talking this up rather than the DUP.

[LongTimeLurker]

15 hours ago, Glenconner said:

Fly the fleg?

 

[Glenconner]

Don't mention the Saudis

[DeeTillEhDeh]

I often wonder if things would have been different if David Ervine hadnt died. Would the PUP have been more prominent than the remnants now?

[Jacksgranda]

1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

I often wonder if things would have been different if David Ervine hadnt died. Would the PUP have been more prominent than the remnants now?

Doubt it, to be honest. They might have had a couple of MLAs, but I don't think they would have been a player. (I'm not downgrading David Ervine, he was a smart cookie, just my opinion. The TUV, with no links to terrorism, hasn't made much of an impact, and unionists haven't been noted for supporting political parties associated with former terrorists, particularly in rural constituencies.)

[The Chlamydia Kid]

136 Conservatives

Nigel Adams (Selby & Ainsty)

Adam Afriyie (Windsor)

Peter Aldous (Waveney)

David Amess (Southend West)

James Arbuthnot (Hampshire North East)

Richard Bacon (Norfolk South)

Steven Baker (Wycombe)

Tony Baldry (Banbury)

Guto Bebb (Aberconwy)

Henry Bellingham (Norfolk North West)

Sir Paul Beresford (Mole Valley)

Andrew Bingham (High Peak)

Bob Blackman (Harrow East)

Peter Bone (Wellingborough)

Graham Brady (Altrincham & Sale West)

Julian Brazier (Canterbury)

Andrew Bridgen (Leicestershire North West)

Steve Brine (Winchester)

Fiona Bruce (Congleton)

Robert Buckland (Swindon South)

Simon Burns (Chelmsford)

David Burrowes (Enfield Southgate)

Alun Cairns (Vale of Glamorgan)

Douglas Carswell (Clacton)

Bill Cash (Stone)

Rehman Chishti (Gillingham & Rainham)

Christopher Chope (Christchurch)

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Cotswolds, The)

Therese Coffey (Suffolk Coastal)

Geoffrey Cox (Devon West & Torridge)

Stephen Crabb (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

David Davies (Monmouth)

Glyn Davies (Montgomeryshire)

Philip Davies (Shipley)

David Davis (Haltemprice & Howden)

Nick de Bois (Enfield North)

Caroline Dinenage (Gosport)

Richard Drax (Dorset South)

Charlie Elphicke (Dover)

Jonathan Evans (Cardiff North)

David Evennett (Bexleyheath & Crayford)

Michael Fallon (Sevenoaks)

Liam Fox (Somerset North)

Mark Francois (Rayleigh & Wickford)

George Freeman (Norfolk Mid)

Roger Gale (Thanet North)

Sir Edward Garnier (Harborough)

Mark Garnier (Wyre Forest)

Cheryl Gillan (Chesham & Amersham)

John Glen (Salisbury)

Robert Goodwill (Scarborough & Whitby)

James Gray (Wiltshire North)

Andrew Griffiths (Burton)

Robert Halfon (Harlow)

Simon Hart (Carmarthen West & Pembrokeshire South)

Sir Alan Haselhurst (Saffron Walden)

John Hayes (South Holland & The Deepings)

Oliver Heald (Hertfordshire North East)

Gordon Henderson (Sittingbourne & Sheppey)

Philip Hollobone (Kettering)

Adam Holloway (Gravesham)

Sir Gerald Howarth (Aldershot)

Stewart Jackson (Peterborough)

Gareth Johnson (Dartford)

David Jones (Clwyd West)

Marcus Jones (Nuneaton)

Greg Knight (Yorkshire East)

Kwasi Kwarteng (Spelthorne)

Mark Lancaster (Milton Keynes North)

Pauline Latham (Derbyshire Mid)

Jeremy Lefroy (Stafford)

Edward Leigh (Gainsborough)

Julian Lewis (New Forest East)

David Lidington (Aylesbury)

Peter Lilley (Hitchin & Harpenden)

Jack Lopresti (Filton & Bradley Stoke)

Jonathan Lord (Woking)

Tim Loughton (Worthing East & Shoreham)

Karen Lumley (Redditch)

Karl McCartney (Lincoln)

Anne McIntosh (Thirsk & Malton)

Stephen McPartland (Stevenage)

Esther McVey (Wirral West)

Anne Main (St Albans)

Paul Maynard (Blackpool North & Cleveleys)

Stephen Metcalfe (Basildon South & Thurrock East)

Nicky Morgan (Loughborough)

Anne-Marie Morris (Newton Abbot)

David Morris (Morecambe & Lunesdale)

James Morris (Halesowen & Rowley Regis)

Bob Neill (Bromley & Chislehurst)

Caroline Nokes (Romsey & Southampton North)

David Nuttall (Bury North)

Stephen O'Brien (Eddisbury)

Matthew Offord (Hendon)

Jim Paice (Cambridgeshire South East)

Neil Parish (Tiverton & Honiton)

Priti Patel (Witham)

Owen Paterson (Shropshire North)

Mark Pawsey (Rugby)

Mike Penning (Hemel Hempstead)

Mark Pritchard (Wrekin, The)

John Randall (Uxbridge & Ruislip South)

John Redwood (Wokingham)

Jacob Rees-Mogg (Somerset North East)

Simon Reevell (Dewsbury)

Sir Malcolm Rifkind (Kensington)

Andrew Robathan (Leicestershire South)

Laurence Robertson (Tewkesbury)

Andrew Rosindell (Romford)

David Ruffley (Bury St Edmunds)

David Rutley (Macclesfield)

Andrew Selous (Bedfordshire South West)

Alec Shelbrooke (Elmet & Rothwell)

Sir Richard Shepherd (Aldridge-Brownhills)

Henry Smith (Crawley)

Sir John Stanley (Tonbridge & Malling)

John Stevenson (Carlisle)

Bob Stewart (Beckenham)

Mel Stride (Devon Central)

Julian Sturdy (York Outer)

Robert Syms (Poole)

Sir Peter Tapsell (Louth & Horncastle)

David Tredinnick (Bosworth)

Andrew Turner (Isle of Wight)

Shailesh Vara (Cambridgeshire North West)

Martin Vickers (Cleethorpes)

Ben Wallace (Wyre & Preston North)

Robert Walter (Dorset North)

James Wharton (Stockton South)

Heather Wheeler (Derbyshire South)

Craig Whittaker (Calder Valley)

John Whittingdale (Maldon)

Bill Wiggin (Herefordshire North)

Gavin Williamson (Staffordshire South)

Jeremy Wright (Kenilworth & Southam)

22 Labour MPs

Joe Benton (Bootle)

Ronnie Campbell (Blyth Valley)

Tom Clarke (Coatbridge, Chryston & Bellshill)

Rosie Cooper (Lancashire West)

David Crausby (Bolton North East)

Tony Cunningham (Workington)

Jim Dobbin (Heywood & Middleton)

Brian Donohoe (Ayrshire Central)

Robert Flello (Stoke-on-Trent South)

Mary Glindon (Tyneside North)

Paul Goggins (Wythenshawe & Sale East)

Dai Havard (Merthyr Tydfil & Rhymney)

Michael McCann (East Kilbride, Strathaven & Lesmahagow)

Jim McGovern (Dundee West)

Iain McKenzie (Inverclyde)

George Mudie (Leeds East)

Paul Murphy (Torfaen)

Stephen Pound (Ealing North)

Frank Roy (Motherwell & Wishaw)

Jim Sheridan (Paisley & Renfrewshire North)

Derek Twigg (Halton)

Mike Wood (Batley & Spen)

4 Lib Dem MPs

Sir Alan Beith (Berwick-upon-Tweed)

Gordon Birtwistle (Burnley)

John Pugh (Southport)

Sarah Teather (Brent Central)

2 independents:

Nadine Dorries (Bedfordshire Mid)

Lady Sylvia Hermon (Down North)

 

8 DUP:

Gregory Campbell (Londonderry East)

Nigel Dodds (Belfast North)

Jeffrey Donaldson (Lagan Valley)

The Rev William McCrea (Antrim South)

Ian Paisley Jr (Antrim North)

Jim Shannon (Strangford)

David Simpson (Upper Bann)

Sammy Wilson (Antrim East)

 

[The Chlamydia Kid]

There's a list of all the 172 MPs who 52 months ago voted against Gay marriage- yet now it's an unpalatable extreme position to take which invalidates your position on a any other issue.....

 

 

 

[Fide]

15 minutes ago, The Chlamydia Kid said:

There's a list of all the 172 MPs who 52 months ago voted against Gay marriage- yet now it's an unpalatable extreme position to take which invalidates your position on a any other issue.....

 

 

 

Are you going to post anything today that isn't whataboutery? It doesn't make the views you support any less abhorrent.

[Shades75]

25 minutes ago, The Chlamydia Kid said:

There's a list of all the 172 MPs who 52 months ago voted against Gay marriage- yet now it's an unpalatable extreme position to take which invalidates your position on a any other issue.....

 

 

 

Gay marriage is only one critique of the DUP.  It's just one of a list of things that indicates that the DUP are out of step with modernity.

Like, as I said, prosecuting Women who have legal abortions in the U.K.

Their competence in government is also severely in question at Stormont, especially Arlene Foster, and yet here they are with undue influence in Westminster.

[Glenconner]

I prefer the DUP and burning witches story from Larne District Council.

"Who says witches were innocent"

[Fullerene]

Apparently the EU did not care much for Ian Paisley and his megaphone diplomacy.
A good ally to have in the Brexit negotiations.
Only one small problem.

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Apart from their nutty politics there is a more important reason why the DUP should not be coalition partners - no UK government should be seen to be picking sides in Northern Ireland.

If it were Labour looking for a coalition with the SDLP (yes I know they have no MPs now) then I would say exactly the same thing.

This deal is going to undermine the Good Friday Agreement.

[Glenconner]

3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Apart from their nutty politics there is a more important reason why the DUP should not be coalition partners - no UK government should be seen to be picking sides in Northern Ireland.

If it were Labour looking for a coalition with the SDLP (yes I know they have no MPs now) then I would say exactly the same thing.

This deal is going to undermine the Good Friday Agreement.

SDLP are/were a sister party of Labour.

The whole point of them has went diddies up since Brexit. No borders is great sounding in a free movement EU. Almost useless in an isolationist UK run by the cast of Little Britain and the Orange Ludge. Suppose there's a place somewhere in the Failed State for Uncle Tomism.

[Sooky]

Apart from their nutty politics there is a more important reason why the DUP should not be coalition partners - no UK government should be seen to be picking sides in Northern Ireland.

If it were Labour looking for a coalition with the SDLP (yes I know they have no MPs now) then I would say exactly the same thing.

This deal is going to undermine the Good Friday Agreement.

To be fair I don't think that's quite the same - the UUP (the sensible Unionists) have had a pact with the Tories before.

If it were SF - if they took their seats - then it would be comparable.

[Crùbag]

Apologies if posted before but this...

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

52 minutes ago, Sooky said:

 

To be fair I don't think that's quite the same - the UUP (the sensible Unionists) have had a pact with the Tories before.

If it were SF - if they took their seats - then it would be comparable.

 

Also the fact that the Tories are depending on DUP support for the survival of their administration, rather than just having a pact to provide extra support. I don't see how a the next Northern Ireland Secretary could be accepted as impartial in that situation.

[Glenconner]

2 hours ago, Crùbag said:

Apologies if posted before but this...

Could be Scotland well into the 20th Century when the never on a Sunday brigade ran the place.

[Sooky]

The DUP...

[John Lambies Doos]

The DUP...

Eh. You support them..., in cahoots with scum. Well done mate