nicotina Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 The times they are a changing On 18/07/2018 at 22:02, G4Mac said: Yes daleboy it was a serious question. I realise that some of the posts were tongue in cheek and were jest, but some were aimed at being a dig at Spartans for not carrying a huge support. Now whilst I believe clubs require a support to function, if they can function with a support of 71 or 17 why does that matter to anyone else other than the club.... There appears to be those amongst us that believe having a massive following is far better than playing at a higher level or that the fact they carry a larger support than others that they hold more weight as a club than their peers. I just hate the argument of 'we have more fans attending games than you therefore we can freely mock you for the size if your support'. Just a personal opinion though and one comment i've seen continuously about the size of a teams support that i've never really felt I understood in terms of its relevance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Presumably the north region clubs get to form a new senior league as well to provide two feeders to the HL? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) Will a purely Tayside league be competitive enough though? You have 16 teams north of the dividing line, but that would be a league featuring Lochee United (P7 W7 GD 26 in the Superleague) at one end and Coupar Angus (P7 L7 GD -46 in the north division) at the other. Could it include Tayport or the Perth teams if they wanted to play to the north, or even Montrose Roselea? Edited October 5, 2018 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Will a purely Tayside league be competitive enough though? You have 16 teams north of the dividing line, but that would be a league featuring Lochee United (P7 W7 GD 26 in the Superleague) at one end and Coupar Angus (P7 L7 GD -46 in the north division) at the other. Could it include Tayport or the Perth teams if they wanted to play to the north, or even Montrose Roselea? Would that be any less competitive than the HL with Cove at one end and, Fort William and Strathspey at the other? There has to be a specified dividing line so Tayport should be told they are in the EOS. They're in Fife not Tayside at the end of the day. Nothing personal Burnieman but although I definitely want a WOSFL and Tayside league set up I'd like to see this officially confirmed before I believe it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior_Arab Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) I’ve not heard anything about a Tayside senior league, but if it was confirmed I’d imagine it might be attractive to the Perth teams and the North Fife teams. Unless they decide they’ve just been through enough upheaval... Edited October 5, 2018 by Junior_Arab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebell1 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Burnie_man said: Tayside Senior League agreed by the PWG I hear, along with a WoSFL, and all to be run in line with existing senior league rules. Not true. The current east junior superleague and west of Scotland superleague will enter at tier 6 next season at the same level as the newly to be formed east of Scotland 16 team league and sosl. There will be a play off from the winners of these 4 leagues to see who goes to lowland league. So from season 19/20 as it stands there will be 50 odd teams playing for 1 promotion place to the lowland league. Licence embargo still in place. Juniors still intact going forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 I can see you being tarred and feathered and dragged around the streets of Pyramidville my friend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Not true. The current east junior superleague and west of Scotland superleague will enter at tier 6 next season at the same level as the newly to be formed east of Scotland 16 team league and sosl. There will be a play off from the winners of these 4 leagues to see who goes to lowland league. So from season 19/20 as it stands there will be 50 odd teams playing for 1 promotion place to the lowland league. Licence embargo still in place. Juniors still intact going forward. My understanding was a Lowland league 2 with 2 promotion places into LL and 2 relegations into regional leagues, play off East/Tayside, West/South? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 My understanding was a Lowland league 2 with 2 promotion places into LL and 2 relegations into regional leagues, play off East/Tayside, West/South?The LL clubs decided against 2 up 2 down at their last AGM with there being no appetite for change on that according to what I read elsewhere. Turkeys don't vote for an early Christmas etcIt will be interesting to see which of Burnieman and Bluebell has the correct insider info on what is happening next season according to the PWG. Odds on that's the EoS and SJFA version of events, respectively. The EoS version was usually more accurate last season. Time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 No one in the pyramid is going to agree to two parallel leagues in the East covering the same geographic area. The junior/senior concept got blown out of the water over the summer, it's finished. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 No one in the pyramid is going to agree to two parallel leagues in the East covering the same geographic area. The junior/senior concept got blown out of the water over the summer, it's finished. Then there's the issue of the 16 east region Tayside clubs that are north of the LL:HL boundary that Burnieman's version of events addresses while Bluebell's doesn't. The east superleague can't simply hook up to the LL, because about half of its current clubs are not eligible to play in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 8 hours ago, bluebell1 said: Not true. The current east junior superleague and west of Scotland superleague will enter at tier 6 next season at the same level as the newly to be formed east of Scotland 16 team league and sosl. There will be a play off from the winners of these 4 leagues to see who goes to lowland league. So from season 19/20 as it stands there will be 50 odd teams playing for 1 promotion place to the lowland league. Licence embargo still in place. Juniors still intact going forward. Tell me how the present East Region can feed the LL when a significant proportion of its members are outwith its geographical footprint? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Guessing there's multiple proposals and that's why things might be cluttered. A standalone Tayside senior league doesn't get off the ground without the Juniors involved, and some of those clubs are seen as the most loyal following the departures to the EoS. Doubt they'd give up the SJFA for a crack at the Highland or even the Lowland. Nice to see once again the situation with the North Juniors isn't directly addressed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: standalone Tayside senior league doesn't get off the ground without the Juniors involved, and some of those clubs are seen as the most loyal following the departures to the EoS. Doubt they'd give up the SJFA for a crack at the Highland or even the Lowland You'll have to explain this to me in more detail, doesn't make sense. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 (edited) Permission for a Tayside senior league to be formed isn't necessarily the same thing as it happening straight away. It gives the 16 clubs concerned a viable way forward, basically. The HL is not keen on relegation and would probably not be heartbroken if those clubs stayed in the SJFA outside the pyramid. Ditto with the north region. If Burnieman is correct and his track record has been good on this then the SJFA's bid to enter intact has been knocked back and the next thing to happen next season will probably be the WoS senior league with the rump of the SJFA continuing outside the pyramid. Once that is cleared up the embargo probably gets lifted. Time will tell. Edited October 6, 2018 by LongTimeLurker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, bluebell1 said: Not true. The current east junior superleague and west of Scotland superleague will enter at tier 6 next season at the same level as the newly to be formed east of Scotland 16 team league and sosl. There will be a play off from the winners of these 4 leagues to see who goes to lowland league. So from season 19/20 as it stands there will be 50 odd teams playing for 1 promotion place to the lowland league. Licence embargo still in place. Juniors still intact going forward. That's not what is being reported by the PWG to EoS clubs, as you should know. No news yet re embargo, the SFA Board meeting was Thursday. How can Tayside clubs compete in a LL feeder? How can East Junior clubs compete in a different league to EoS clubs covering the same area? Sounds like a TJ fantasy. Again. Edited October 6, 2018 by Burnie_man 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: My understanding was a Lowland league 2 with 2 promotion places into LL and 2 relegations into regional leagues, play off East/Tayside, West/South? I heard a wee while back that a Lowland League 2 was discussed by LL clubs. No other information than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Misread that when I responded to it. That's a good way to get LL clubs to vote for changes and address the imbalance between east and west. Also makes a statement about what should be happening in the not too distant future at the bottom of the SPFL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulch Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Tayside Senior League agreed by the PWG I hear, along with a WoSFL, and all to be run in line with existing senior league rules.Sorry, I'm a bit confused now after further comments. I originally thought that the Tayside Senior league would be linked to the Highland league, rather than the Lowland leagues, because of its location. Were my original thoughts about your post correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulch Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 If I was right about the Highland I assumed with a view to having a promotion link to the Highland or one when it was set up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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