LordHawHaw Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Jmothecat2 said: Why, because we care more about our team than whether some non-existent club have titles stripped during an era where we were never competing for titles anyway? Personally I would prefer the titles to be stripped but it's very low on my priority list from what I want from our chairman. It's a shame but I think that will be the majority view from most clubs fans, the clubs themselves imo will be delighted at doing what I think they want , nothing Topping and now Milne were testing the water Only fan protests stopped the new Rangers from re-entering the SPL or Div 1, I believe the clubs were simply forced into action. It really is a shame to do nothing about industrial scale cheating and corruption of any idea of fair play. I wonder how history will view this episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paralytic Critic Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, LordHawHaw said: I wonder how history will view this episode Being honest I doubt many will notice that anything was ever up. The lie has been cemented in and allowed to set that they are same old club and did nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Interesting... [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 As long as they bear in mind that the Supreme Court verdict is a totally separate issue from paying the players half up-front with regular and registered contracts and half in the sleekit modern day 'cash in brown envelope' EBT method. THAT is where Rangers cheated football and why the titles and trophies should be voided. The Tax scheme is where they cheated the Exchequer. Keep it simple. The 'guilty' parties seek to make it as complex as they can. That is how this issue has run so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Of_Kings Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Just now, Henke said: "The Scottish Professional Football League will review Rangers' use of a controversial tax scheme, Hibernian chairman Rod Petrie has told the BBC. It follows a Supreme Court ruling in favour of HM Revenue and Customs over the club's use of Employee Benefit Trusts between 2001 and 2010. The SPFL's new board was meeting on Monday following its annual elections. But it is unlikely to make a decision about the Supreme Court ruling that deemed the EBT scheme unlawful . A Scottish Premier League commission, headed by Lord Nimmo-Smith, into the club's use of the scheme found Rangers to be in breach of player registration rules. But it resisted calls for Rangers to be stripped of titles won in the period of EBT use. However, following the Supreme Court ruling, Celtic said they expected the SPFL to review the 2013 decision that their city rivals "did not gain any unfair competitive advantage". That judgement was made at a time when the scheme was deemed acceptable by a 2012 tax tribunal. More to follow." Unlawful? At no time has HMRC or the supreme court ever said that the ebt scheme was unlawful, it was a dispute over amount due which HMRC won after a lengthy process by arguing that the loans should've been taxable. Legal or illegal never came in to it. Very poor reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, bennett said: Unlawful? At no time has HMRC or the supreme court ever said that the ebt scheme was unlawful, it was a dispute over amount due which HMRC won after a lengthy process by arguing that the loans should've been taxable. Legal or illegal never came in to it. Very poor reporting. Aye, there has been a lot of poor reporting all through the past 5 or 6 years. I wonder which side benefitted most form the slack journalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MacLean Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I think that the titles won by Rangers during the EBT period should be marked with a * next to them in the record books. That way the stars they currently wear with pride upon their jerseys can signify the tainted titles they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, John MacLean said: I think that the titles won by Rangers during the EBT period should be marked with a * next to them in the record books. That way the stars they currently wear with pride upon their jerseys can signify the tainted titles they won. 'what do those 5 stars on your Sports Direct replica shirt represent?' they symbolise the titles we won by being the Greatest Cheats The World Has Ever Seen. WATP' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Henke said: genuine question here,what do you think the final outcome will be regarding title stripping/EBT yrs?,..as ye know every other SPFL teams fans want titles stripped,..obviously the rangers support don't, Mob rule again? It's been dealt with, a hefty binding punishment was given to Rangers but maybe altered to appease an online rabble.. Due to the make up of the spfl (the clubs) claims of bias and agendas will never be far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 'hefty' punishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Nothing but Sound bites from rod Celtic voted Robertson in today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Henke said: No just don't like financial doping or cheating,whilst every other club had to live within its means Every club had to live within their means" Did they? "Financial doping" Just a meaningless buzzword. 2 minutes ago, Ken Fitlike said: 'hefty' punishment Loose change to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Just now, Henke said: Yes. Aberdeen, hearts, Dundee, the lesser Dundee team etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 35 minutes ago, bennett said: . Very poor reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 "The Scottish Professional Football League will review Rangers' use of a controversial tax scheme, Hibernian chairman Rod Petrie has told the BBC" no doubt discussions will not focus on doing the right thing, but rather on how to get away with fudging around allowing the wrong thing to stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worktheshaft Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 57 minutes ago, bennett said: Mob rule again? It's been dealt with, a hefty binding punishment was given to Rangers but maybe altered to appease an online rabble.. Due to the make up of the spfl (the clubs) claims of bias and agendas will never be far away. I'm sorry but what 'hefty punishment' did Rangers receive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, McQuade said: Except they weren't loans ,they were income and not paying tax on it is unlawful HMRC accepted after the FTT and the UTT that they were indeed loans. That has not changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Henke said: No just don't like financial doping or cheating,whilst every other most clubs had to live within its means and a lot of others, too, spent money they didn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue92 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Expect a few words reply if he thinks 5 lines is a war and peace sized novel. I realised this later on today, the mobile app is a different format so looked pretty long. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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