Antlion Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: Corbyn whipping against Ian Murray's amendment is not the same as endorsing every Tory proposal much as Nats would like to portray it as such.Any party nationally that succeeded in totally derailing Brexit would be heavily punished electorally.Pragmatism and "slowly slowly catchee monkey". A fair few Nationalists are anti Europe as well although you would never know by the way it's represented by some people.This is the adult world not the neat tidy "with us or against us" simplistic view so beloved of Nationalists. I’d say the majority of UK nats are anti EU, but it hasn’t put you off endorsing (indeed, championing) UK nationalism. In fact, you’re so committed to it, you now heartily endorse UK separatism, because it’s what the majority of your compatriots want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, mjw said: Obsessed. There are labour MP's who are remainers who are just as upset at this but that won't fit your pathetic agenda. Aye, but you won’t see the pathetic attention seeker indulging in simplistic us and them rhetoric - well, you know, apart from the “nats, nats, nats” schtick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Obsessed. There are labour MP's who are remainers who are just as upset at this but that won't fit your pathetic agenda.It seems a total waste of time to support a party who,when in opposition, don't really oppose much.Then when they get into government they spend their time trying to be Tory lite. The current Labour Party is moving very very far from "Tory lite" and the is clearly disturbing you.Things are changing and a left wing Govt is a real possibility at WM although as I've said that appears to be unpalatable to a fair few on here with the blinkers on.Blairite Labour is over and that's changing the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Aye, but you won’t see the pathetic attention seeker indulging in simplistic us and them rhetoric - well, you know, apart from the “nats, nats, nats” schtick. I've taken a fair bit of "yoons,yoons,yoons" stuff on here.Water of a ducks back when i can see how unsettled you are getting.The world of British politics is changing and the SNP are not the "only show in town" as they were reminded at the last GE.It has become less "fashionable" to be a YES voter and a fair few easily led voters have left the flock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 42 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: I've taken a fair bit of "yoons,yoons,yoons" stuff on here.Water of a ducks back when i can see how unsettled you are getting.The world of British politics is changing and the SNP are not the "only show in town" as they were reminded at the last GE.It has become less "fashionable" to be a YES voter and a fair few easily led voters have left the flock. You self-identified as a troll, out to garner attention from strangers. We can safely discount everything you type here, as it will never now be clear what you’re saying just for the (frankly bizarre) pleasure of a response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The current Labour Party is moving very very far from "Tory lite" and the is clearly disturbing you.Things are changing and a left wing Govt is a real possibility at WM although as I've said that appears to be unpalatable to a fair few on here with the blinkers on.Blairite Labour is over and that's changing the game. Absolutely nothing is changing.The poll shows that Labour retains its narrow two-point lead over the Conservatives in terms of overall vote share, on 42%. Neither party has made any ground since the autumn party conference season. (The Guardian)You keep lashing out ant Nat/Nationalists though. That'll work next election,it's proven. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, mjw said: Absolutely nothing is changing. The poll shows that Labour retains its narrow two-point lead over the Conservatives in terms of overall vote share, on 42%. Neither party has made any ground since the autumn party conference season. (The Guardian) You keep lashing out ant Nat/Nationalists though. That'll work next election,it's proven. “We’re changing, the glorious UK Parliament really is going to do things differently, please, babes, really mean it this time. Also, if you try and leave you’ll be in the gutter, you worthless whore.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Absolutely nothing is changing.The poll shows that Labour retains its narrow two-point lead over the Conservatives in terms of overall vote share, on 42%. Neither party has made any ground since the autumn party conference season. (The Guardian)You keep lashing out ant Nat/Nationalists though. That'll work next election,it's proven. Yes the Labour Party has changed a blind man can see that but not the blinkered."Lashing out" is your interpretation i see it as making my opinion known. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Why does anyone even read this guy's posts? Even when he tries to be serious, it can be discounted as he's a self confessed attention seeker. So even that's probably utter bullshit. Why bother? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 “We’re changing, the glorious UK Parliament really is going to do things differently, please, babes, really mean it this time. Also, if you try and leave you’ll be in the gutter, you worthless whore.” Put Corbyn in No10 and it will change.Your overly dramatic reply shows how thin your argument actually is.The "only show in town" apparently has nothing to fear so you can relax.Indy is on it's way real soon...again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 You self-identified as a troll, out to garner attention from strangers. We can safely discount everything you type here, as it will never now be clear what you’re saying just for the (frankly bizarre) pleasure of a response. Very good I would suggest you discount everything and stop replying then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 You self-identified as a troll, out to garner attention from strangers. We can safely discount everything you type here, as it will never now be clear what you’re saying just for the (frankly bizarre) pleasure of a response. Lets not forget the foot stamping about on saturday after his team gets pumped by a highland league team his first thought is "i hope people are racists" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Why does anyone even read this guy's posts? Even when he tries to be serious, it can be discounted as he's a self confessed attention seeker. So even that's probably utter bullshit. Why bother? Maybe it makes a wee change from all the mutual belly rubs that go on in this forum.There is much truth in what i am saying so it needs denigrating that's why they return again and again.Most of my posts appear quite calm and collected compared to the replies.Try reading Jupe or Antlions responses and wonder why the raging tone of Jupe or the drama queenisms of Antlion should be deemed the norm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Lets not forget the foot stamping about on saturday after his team gets pumped by a highland league team his first thought is "i hope people are racists" I hoped it would expose racists and i wasn't disappointed. "i hope people are racists" presumably is a made up quote lovingly made up by yourself.Piss poor quality spin attempt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I'm hoping Leonard's non Scottishness might drag a few Nat racists out into the open."But he's no even Scoattish he can fukc off back to England" type stuff. Not hoping at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: Put Corbyn in No10 and it will change.Your overly dramatic reply shows how thin your argument actually is.The "only show in town" apparently has nothing to fear so you can relax.Indy is on it's way real soon...again. I can’t put Corbyn in Number 10. You can’t put Corbyn in Number 10. The entire nation of Scotland can’t put Corbyn in Number 10. Your newfound love of Corbyn, and belief that he will single handedly change the UK into something you approve of, will not change that. A majority of voters in England will have to share your blind belief in Comrade Corbyn turning around decades (if not centuries) of the UK’s economic direction. Good luck convincing the people that need to be convinced that the UK should be a separatist socialist utopia. I suspect you know this, though, and the recent spurt of activity signifies some sad need to bait and troll for attention (after all, you’ve admitted this is how you pass your time). Edited November 21, 2017 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: Yes the Labour Party has changed a blind man can see that but not the blinkered."Lashing out" is your interpretation i see it as making my opinion known. Is it your opinion, though, or is it the opinion you think will get the most attention? P&B may never know. Edited November 21, 2017 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I think it's a widely accepted opinion country wide. I can't imagine a Tory-lite party would propose the repeal of the Trade Union Act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 So the labour drones are still buying this Corbyn playing the long game shite. In the same way they lapped up Blair's pragmatic road to socialism. Corbyn is a Bennite hard brexit juche socialist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Loondave1 said: Corbyn whipping against Ian Murray's amendment is not the same as endorsing every Tory proposal much as Nats would like to portray it as such.Any party nationally that succeeded in totally derailing Brexit would be heavily punished electorally.Pragmatism and "slowly slowly catchee monkey". A fair few Nationalists are anti Europe as well although you would never know by the way it's represented by some people.This is the adult world not the neat tidy "with us or against us" simplistic view so beloved of Nationalists. Word salad. Stop reading what you think I'm writing. Please give one example of where Corbyn has extracted any concessions to the hardest of Brexits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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