ayrmad Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: There's not much difference between a first trimester abortion and taking a morning after pill. Abortions after 20 weeks are rare and in my opinion should only happen when the Mother's health is at risk or the fetus is so damaged it has little chance of survival. 6 or 7 a day is not rare IMHO, the rest I agree with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Cuddy Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I'd love to know how the documented cases of survived abortions managed after having their limbs ripped off and their heads crushed. Description of how late abortion was performed years ago isn't exactly indicative of how they're carried out now, but let's not that get in the way of objecting to abortion because it's "icky". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) I don't know what week they're fired in a kidney dish and the boss isn't here to ask, I also didn't know until I read an article this morning that all the late abortions are dismembered, doesn't make either scenario any better, if they're firing them into a kidney dish alive and breathing at 16 weeks I might change my mind in the other direction even more. Of course, I've got a pair so I'm surprised you're interested in anything I have to say on the subject. Edited June 9, 2018 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 You're a p***k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: You're a p***k Would you like a hanky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Would you like a hanky. Aloe vera? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Fucking hell. Ayrmad looking for online martyrdom again [emoji38] Sent from my Pixel 2 using Pie and Bovril mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: Fucking hell. Ayrmad looking for online martyrdom again Sent from my Pixel 2 using Pie and Bovril mobile app That would suggest I need something back from P&B, if that was the case I'd be putting on the poor me' in here, won't happen, I've had many negative traits over the last 40 years but I can't say there's much I'd change about my behaviour at present, singing 'n' dancing has been my attitude for quite a long while now regardless of what's going on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I was being ironic towards you.Let me spell it out.Women who have abortions are perfectly entitled to do so, as long as it’s within the guidelines set out by the medical profession, who didn’t just guess at the timeline, it’s after decades of study that the limits were set.No man has the right to determine what a woman does with her body.Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, but that opinion should be disregarded as you aren’t a woman. But a man has a right to tell her what to do with her body after 26 weeks though?... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 But a man has a right to tell her what to do with her body after 26 weeks though?...Think he covered that with the "within the guidelines of the medical profession" line no?If you are trying to point out that actually the "man telling woman" piece of this is a bit of a distraction then you are correct. Since anyone can do anything to their own bodies within the confines of the law, including abortion. So fair play to you for trying to remove some of the gender discrimination from this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Think he covered that with the "within the guidelines of the medical profession" line no?If you are trying to point out that actually the "man telling woman" piece of this is a bit of a distraction then you are correct. Since anyone can do anything to their own bodies within the confines of the law, including abortion. So fair play to you for trying to remove some of the gender discrimination from this. He hasn’t dealt with it. He says that a man has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body. Yet he then defends the law, at present, where a man can tell a woman what to do with her body after the unborn child is 26 weeks. So society generally accepts that a man can in fact tell a woman what she can or can’t do with her body. The only thing that is up for debate is about when that deadline for a man having no say enda. For some that should kick in at conception, for others at 26 weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 He hasn’t dealt with it. He says that a man has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body. Yet he then defends the law, at present, where a man can tell a woman what to do with her body after the unborn child is 26 weeks. So society generally accepts that a man can in fact tell a woman what she can or can’t do with her body. The only thing that is up for debate is about when that deadline for a man having no say enda. For some that should kick in at conception, for others at 26 weeks. I think this is all a bit of a distraction tbh. I know it has gone on right through the thread, but given the UK govt and the devolved Scottish govt are led by women as well as Arlene Foster in the mix, surely this isnt actually a case of a man telling a woman what to do but the law telling a woman what to do. Some laws, like the one in the ROI may have previously been set by men with varying agendas. In that particular case, the law was dealt a robust GTF by the population (men and women). It seems that in actual fact, the strong majority of men and women are in agreement on this issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I think this is all a bit of a distraction tbh. I know it has gone on right through the thread, but given the UK govt and the devolved Scottish govt as well as Arlene Foster in the mix, surely this isnt actually a case of a man telling a woman what to do but the law telling a woman what to do. Some laws, like the one in the ROI may have previously been set by men with varying agendas. In that particular case, the law was dealt a robust GTF by the population (men and women). It seems that in actual fact, the strong majority of men and women are in agreement on this issue. The full argument has been reduced to some binary black/white, right/wrong, male/female, conservative/progressive issue like everything else these days. No place for any nuance or understanding of any alternative points of view and no compromise. It’s a pathetic point scoring and claiming moral high ground exercise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Ayrmad having a mare on this thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Cuddy Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Are all medical experts men then? I must tell our consultant, I'm sure she'll be surprised at this news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Are all medical experts men then? I must tell our consultant, I'm sure she'll be surprised at this news. Some are I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 35 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Ayrmad having a mare on this thread Nah, I'm cool with my input. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Are all medical experts men then? I must tell our consultant, I'm sure she'll be surprised at this news. Talk about deliberately missing the point... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: Talk about deliberately missing the point... Just about makes the Bingo on dogmatic points/tactics to justify killing babies / silence discussion. Edited June 11, 2018 by banana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Talk about deliberately missing the point... Ok, I’ll bite. My comment was posted in reaction to banana & Ayrmad. These are the men I’m referring to in my post. Not the medical profession or politicians.Of course, Lisa Cuddy and Bairnardo make valid points regarding the increasing sex equality in those two lines of work- we are not quite there yet, but hopefully soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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