She who dares gins Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Out of interest, why did it take until December for this to become an issue at board level? Surely either the Trust knew they had no plans to hand the money to the club this year and made their position clear or they knew (via being on the board) that the club was expecting the 10k and budgeting on that basis. Not having a go at any party here, genuinely interested to know how this hasn't been noticed until a year after the consortium got together and 6 months after we'd signed a squad.Aye that does strike me as odd. That no one seemed to know or disclose that the KitAid money wasn’t coming in. Let’s try and get it sorted and give this new ownership a bit more time. I’m not interested in personalities or politics anymore, just a sustainable club that maybe does well again some day! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDiamond Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Aye that does strike me as odd. That no one seemed to know or disclose that the KitAid money wasn’t coming in. Let’s try and get it sorted and give this new ownership a bit more time. I’m not interested in personalities or politics anymore, just a sustainable club that maybe does well again some day! Bob Reid said later in the meeting that the Budget/Forecast that everyone was working to had £10K against the trust but in the notes to that it stated £8.5K merchandise so it had been clear the merchandise would be counted towards that. Trust also covering Bryan Prunty’s wage which they’d been happy to do given how helpful he’d been down the years.Agree with your point above, a sustainable, successful club needs to the common goal here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She who dares gins Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Bob Reid said later in the meeting that the Budget/Forecast that everyone was working to had £10K against the trust but in the notes to that it stated £8.5K merchandise so it had been clear the merchandise would be counted towards that. Trust also covering Bryan Prunty’s wage which they’d been happy to do given how helpful he’d been down the years.Agree with your point above, a sustainable, successful club needs to the common goal here.Thanks for clarification. The only thing that leaves a sour taste for me is the suggestion the £10K would for shares would be taken if the KidAid money wasn’t paid. That’s poor if true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Dave Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The trust notes were very inconsistent and bordering on bitter at times on FB. The funds provided whether that be £10 or £20k are trivial in comparison to the overall income of Airdrie FC. That wouldn't even cover a small proportion of the losses incurred by the club this season which is as far as I understand is in excess of £150k. Those remaining have been left to pick up the tab. The club will survive without the trust but there will be no trust without Airdrieonians Football Club. The tail simply cannot wag the dog. That aside, the club seem to have an employee who's main focus is to raise funds for the trust. The trust then have an issue about the club asking for a share of that income for which the club pay and the trust contribute nothing. It would seem that the trust have given this no consideration and just want have their cake and eat it. Perhaps the trust should consider compensating the club for the extensive fund raising services its had for free!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Dave Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, She who dares gins said: If that’s the attitude of the club towards the trust and people who’ve done so much for Airdrie over the years then I’m pretty horrified. I'm speaking for me as a lifelong fan. We don't all buy into the trust clique. They represent themselves not the Airdrie support as a whole. A few home truths should not horrify you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDiamond Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The trust notes were very inconsistent and bordering on bitter at times on FB. The funds provided whether that be £10 or £20k are trivial in comparison to the overall income of Airdrie FC. That wouldn't even cover a small proportion of the losses incurred by the club this season which is as far as I understand is in excess of £150k. Those remaining have been left to pick up the tab. The club will survive without the trust but there will be no trust without Airdrieonians Football Club. The tail simply cannot wag the dog. That aside, the club seem to have an employee who's main focus is to raise funds for the trust. The trust then have an issue about the club asking for a share of that income for which the club pay and the trust contribute nothing. It would seem that the trust have given this no consideration and just want have their cake and eat it. Perhaps the trust should consider compensating the club for the extensive fund raising services its had for free!!!Where does that figure come from? Does it take into account the Celtic Game and if so how have the cash flow requirements of the business been met? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She who dares gins Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I'm speaking for me as a lifelong fan. We don't all buy into the trust clique. They represent themselves not the Airdrie support as a whole. A few home truths should not horrify you. I’m not in the trust and don’t buy into anything - including this new ownership at the moment - but still respect what they’ve done and wouldn’t come on here to trash them or the committee. Same goes for the new owners, but doesn’t appear from your post that they have any problems with that as you seem to have some knowledge of the issues - they’ll lose more fans than they’ll gain if that’s their attitude. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Reed Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Once we sell some of our players we won't be long in bringing in £150k ,not a good position to be in if that is taking into account the Celtic money.would think wages will have played a major part in that sum . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidtredog Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 The trust notes were very inconsistent and bordering on bitter at times on FB. The funds provided whether that be £10 or £20k are trivial in comparison to the overall income of Airdrie FC. That wouldn't even cover a small proportion of the losses incurred by the club this season which is as far as I understand is in excess of £150k. Those remaining have been left to pick up the tab. The club will survive without the trust but there will be no trust without Airdrieonians Football Club. The tail simply cannot wag the dog. That aside, the club seem to have an employee who's main focus is to raise funds for the trust. The trust then have an issue about the club asking for a share of that income for which the club pay and the trust contribute nothing. It would seem that the trust have given this no consideration and just want have their cake and eat it. Perhaps the trust should consider compensating the club for the extensive fund raising services its had for free!!!What are you on about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waysider Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Diamond Dave said: The trust notes were very inconsistent and bordering on bitter at times on FB. The funds provided whether that be £10 or £20k are trivial in comparison to the overall income of Airdrie FC. That wouldn't even cover a small proportion of the losses incurred by the club this season which is as far as I understand is in excess of £150k. Those remaining have been left to pick up the tab. The club will survive without the trust but there will be no trust without Airdrieonians Football Club. The tail simply cannot wag the dog. That aside, the club seem to have an employee who's main focus is to raise funds for the trust. The trust then have an issue about the club asking for a share of that income for which the club pay and the trust contribute nothing. It would seem that the trust have given this no consideration and just want have their cake and eat it. Perhaps the trust should consider compensating the club for the extensive fund raising services its had for free!!! You are a sad individual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesadilla Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Two things;Cheers to big stretch for posting about the meeting.Yep, it’s not palatable but PH won’t want to lose income so it’s probably best placed with him. Until there are viable options to have club and stadium together under an alternative umbrella, we’re stick with what we’ve got. This boy doesn’t want to lose money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Armada Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 The trust notes were very inconsistent and bordering on bitter at times on FB. The funds provided whether that be £10 or £20k are trivial in comparison to the overall income of Airdrie FC. That wouldn't even cover a small proportion of the losses incurred by the club this season which is as far as I understand is in excess of £150k. Those remaining have been left to pick up the tab. The club will survive without the trust but there will be no trust without Airdrieonians Football Club. The tail simply cannot wag the dog. That aside, the club seem to have an employee who's main focus is to raise funds for the trust. The trust then have an issue about the club asking for a share of that income for which the club pay and the trust contribute nothing. It would seem that the trust have given this no consideration and just want have their cake and eat it. Perhaps the trust should consider compensating the club for the extensive fund raising services its had for free!!!Nae bother PH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The clean living guy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Pesadilla said: Yep, it’s not palatable but PH won’t want to lose income so it’s probably best placed with him. Until there are viable options to have club and stadium together under an alternative umbrella, we’re stick with what we’ve got. This boy doesn’t want to lose money. Think you are right. Have to assume that a successful Airdrie has to be more profitable to stadium buisness and PH would want this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Dave Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Spanish Armada said: Nae bother PH I'm not PH. You're miles out Mr BG!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 I've been mulling over the issues with the Trust and the Board and I've got mixed feelings on the whole thing. Firstly, I've been really down about the departures from the board, the people involved were the reason I was fully behind the plans for the takeover. Stuart Shields in particular. Also, whoever spoke to Willie in the borderline abusive manner that they appear to have, need to have a good look at themselves. It's also clear that PH is pretty single minded and difficult to deal with and he needs to cut the shit and work with people. He should be courting the Trust, not putting up barriers. However, whilst I'm up for the club/Trust playing a part in the community (my pride in my town is linked with my love of the club) I think the Trust's first priority should be ensuring, within whatever bounds it is operating at the time, that the club is successful. So, whether money was due or not due is pretty irrelevant. If we have funds we should be using them to support the club. Maybe PH should show some humility during discussions right enough. Now, to be clear, I would vote in favour of the Trust paying Bryan Prunty's wages every day and twice on a Sunday. But what's this about "we were happy to help with his return to the club"? Who is we? This really pisses me off about the Trust. In my opinion, the Trust committee or Officers should work on behalf of the members of the Trust. Not the current situation where decisions are made without voting and where info is held back until our yearly crisis rolls around. I've mentioned it before, but we've not heard much from the Trust since the takeover. So, in summary, PH seems to have wrecked my dreams of a new Airdrie controlled by fans, and I want the Trust to do more to change that and ensure the club is successful. Leverage him using our chequebook seems an obvious tactic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxismydog Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Pesadilla said: Two things; Cheers to big stretch for posting about the meeting. Yep, it’s not palatable but PH won’t want to lose income so it’s probably best placed with him. Until there are viable options to have club and stadium together under an alternative umbrella, we’re stick with what we’ve got. This boy doesn’t want to lose money. I agree 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 I've deleted the fao mods Airdrie thread as folk seemed to think it was the one for posting in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Armada Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Seannny is playing someone will be happy [emoji9][emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie_3 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 conroy and sean in the starting line up, god save us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Armada Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 conroy and sean in the starting line up, god save usConroy has been better than Edwards at LWB he’s not the greatest but he’s not the worst 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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